tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post1045313939435174843..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: What Do Feminists Want Women to Want?Stuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-40521261816267277552013-02-13T18:25:24.750-08:002013-02-13T18:25:24.750-08:00People can't eat their cake & have it. Som...People can't eat their cake & have it. Somebody can't be a feminist who doesn't want bride price and things like that, but still want guys (regardless of if they are 'girlish' or shy) to be acting like suitors as at 2013 (not 1913). Chivalry and chauvinism where like twins but they are no longer in existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-24559956226055714102012-08-30T06:45:16.466-07:002012-08-30T06:45:16.466-07:00The feminist/socialist movement has failed miserab...The feminist/socialist movement has failed miserably in its attempt to increase the happiness of women (not that that was any part of the true goal, just the stated one for popular consumption). The feminist told all women that their key to happiness was to be just like the men. Don’t waste your time having and raising kids; just climb the corporate ladder, chasing that corner office and you will be fulfilled. Many women did and still follow this disastrous advice, much to their detriment. When they get to the top they thought they always wanted, they find out just how lonely they are. Because, unlike the men, they were told by the America-hating feminists that marriage and children would only hinder their progress. But their male peers in the corner offices all have wives and children and homes in the suburbs. They watch youth soccer on Saturday mornings, go to dinner and a show with their wives on Saturday night, and then enjoy a family dinner on Sunday afternoon. These corporate achiever men are mostly happy and content; they crack jokes at the water cooler and make easy conversation with their co-workers. The only thing they have in common with their female executive peers is their paycheck. The poor 50+ something women execs live unfulfilled, lonely lives that only get lonelier with age. They spend their days admiring their 401K’s as they gaze out from the 24th floor of their uptown luxury apartments watching reruns of “Sex and the City” on Saturday nights. They are stunned to meet the wives of their male peers and find them happy and content. They consider such women “sellouts,” but secretly wish they were just like them and wonder what in the world they were thinking all these years. They have an overwhelming feeling of betrayal that they dogmatically hideFrancisChalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04334588467766575004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-19350824491264963542012-08-29T04:14:27.287-07:002012-08-29T04:14:27.287-07:00Very good point, well said.Very good point, well said.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-45153790131035306692012-08-28T20:53:46.671-07:002012-08-28T20:53:46.671-07:00RE "Women's liberation"
I remember ...RE "Women's liberation"<br /><br />I remember listening to Dennis Prager one time and he said (paraphrasing), "Whenever an adjective prefixes a virtue, politics is at play." <br /><br />Take justice, for example. Nothing needs to be added to justice. An act or decision, even inaction, whatever its context, is either just or unjust (where a standard exists by which such judgment can be made). Prefixes are superfluous and practically redundant as long as justice, the virtue, itself is the goal.<br /><br /><i>Social</i> justice, a term we hear bandied about quite often these days, is not about justice. It is a skewed, narrow political goal that implies using socialist policy to accomplish social egalitarianism.<br /><br />Your post, Mr. Schneiderman, perfectly illustrates Mr. Prager's point. <br /><br />Liberty, like justice, needs no prefix. <i>Women's</i> liberty is not about liberty; it is about advancing a very narrow view of womanhood, beauty, sexuality, relationships, marriage, etc., etc. and, further, demanding conformity to it.<br /><br />It is crass politics and there is no virtue in it.Markhttp://torqued-up.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-69668336261402268192012-08-28T05:40:24.714-07:002012-08-28T05:40:24.714-07:00Sorry to offend... I was not speaking clearly enou...Sorry to offend... I was not speaking clearly enough... feminists invent a caricature of men and then try to have sex the way they believe the caricature does.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-53957646210317909152012-08-27T15:58:00.930-07:002012-08-27T15:58:00.930-07:00You made a number of references to 'having sex...You made a number of references to 'having sex like a man'. The context appears to say that men don't want a relationship, they want to f#%k. They don't view their sexual partner as a human being, but merely as an object from which to derive physical enjoyment.<br /><br />As a man I find that very offensive. In no way do I consider the males who act in that manner to be men.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-29605398164400002982012-08-27T12:00:55.521-07:002012-08-27T12:00:55.521-07:00"it is women—not men—who are perpetuating the..."it is women—not men—who are perpetuating the culture, especially in school, cannily manipulating it to make space for their success, always keeping their own ends in mind. For college girls these days, an overly serious suitor fills the same role an accidental pregnancy did in the 19th century: a danger to be avoided at all costs, lest it get in the way of a promising future."<br /><br />So apparently success and a promising future are not defined by marrying and having a family. Success is to be measured purely in financial terms.RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346484258194484053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-72291401194140936932012-08-27T11:57:57.873-07:002012-08-27T11:57:57.873-07:00If a young woman spends her time from 20 to 30 &qu...If a young woman spends her time from 20 to 30 "hooking up" while other young women are getting married and justify the choice by saying that they want to put their career development ahead of a relationship and marriage, what they're going to find when they turn 30 is that all the young men who wanted to put energy into marriage and a family are married and putting energy into a family. The men that will be left will be the ones that are most interested in casual sex and want to put their career ahead of marriage and a family.<br /><br />Not the most fertile ground to find a man wh is interested in marriage and a family. And unlike the young women, they have no "biological clock" driving them to change.<br /><br />So - good luck with that.RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17346484258194484053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-23921601899791657492012-08-26T15:51:14.027-07:002012-08-26T15:51:14.027-07:00interesting...
http://findmrright.infointeresting...<br /><br />http://findmrright.infoPamila Payneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00628689187549776532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-6359395493865969982012-08-26T05:29:25.229-07:002012-08-26T05:29:25.229-07:00This is probably not all about careers, some of it...This is probably not all about careers, some of it is about extending the mate-search for as long as possible in the hopes of getting someone "better."<br /><br />Sort of like holding on to stocks you know are overvalued in the hope they'll go just a little higher before you sell them.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-28269634387769508032012-08-25T14:42:57.964-07:002012-08-25T14:42:57.964-07:00Trust me, Rosin did not register the least awarene...<i><br />Trust me, Rosin did not register the least awareness of the fact that this woman was telling her that the American feminists have gotten themselves in the business of pimping out young women... for the cause. </i><br /><br />This is a great and rather chilling insight. The predictable response by Marcotte and on Jezebel is precisely in that vein. Feminists can keep saying, "You <b>will</b> like casual sex, but increasingly women are answering that they tried it and didn't like it at all. <br /><br />Thank you for the link love Stuart!Susan Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01984275712518966508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-85937575743791337362012-08-25T06:20:57.329-07:002012-08-25T06:20:57.329-07:00I'm as baffled by the desire to find someone t...I'm as baffled by the desire to find someone to spend money on me (to give me "value") as I am by the desire to engage in a series of shallow hookups.<br /><br />Why should women see marriage as a trap? Why should a woman face a choice between sex with a man who barely know her and life with a man who will know her very well, but only at the cost of making her give up her full adult life? Maybe women just need to steer clear of both the guys who want a one-night stand and the guys who want to put her in a life-long box. There are different kinds of guys out there, you know. I've been married for 29 years, but I've never asked a guy to spend money on me, especially not to validate me.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-36472560863042323462012-08-25T06:04:31.472-07:002012-08-25T06:04:31.472-07:00After re reading what I wrote I am amazed at how m...After re reading what I wrote I am amazed at how much it defines the Obama craze. It brings together a number of these groups all searching for a way to keep from being hoisted on their own petard.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962996070458991675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-13663841972051265812012-08-25T05:57:29.327-07:002012-08-25T05:57:29.327-07:00I am mature enough that I remember women constantl...I am mature enough that I remember women constantly telling men that there was more to life than just a career. That the important things in life were family, and living a good life. One is not defined by their job. One is defined by the totality of their life. When one dies they are NOT going to wish they worked more at a job!<br />Amazing how the modern day feminists has forgotten all that for a constantly narrowing definition of what it means to be a feminist. One that seems not above degrading young women and making them into workplace drudges and slaves. Basically defined by their jobs and their baser instincts.<br />In many ways this is a good thing because sooner, or later given the constant feminist propaganda, even young women will figure out that there is more to life than what has been proposed by feminism. A significant number of more mature women have already figured it out. It is a sign that modern feminism is in the throws of dying an ignominious death.<br />Any idea and or issue that needs to be addressed starts out with that idea being postulated and given life by its adherents. It, if a good idea, gains acceptance throughout the general culture. It wins the battle for its acceptance and the culture changes to take it as part of the betterment of an improved society and gains the benefits that now accrue because of it.<br />Unfortunately, the radicals now take over and begin to debase the issue to the point that no one who agreed with the issue now recognizes it. It then gradually works its way to its own extinction by alienating larger and larger groups of people. What we are witnessing is the death of an idea. The frenetic search for a justification for their cause no matter the depths they have to sink.<br />This seems to me the path that almost every interest group takes including feminism, leftism, the NACCP, SPLC, et al.<br />Kind of interesting if you ask me. There just seems that there is a Life Cycle that all things go through. Pay enough attention an one can see it in progress.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962996070458991675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-41033989084643013852012-08-25T05:35:26.030-07:002012-08-25T05:35:26.030-07:00Yeah but Roisin is a failure single mother.
Every...Yeah but Roisin is a failure single mother.<br /><br />Everything she claims 'they' want is what she wants and believe me she knows she is worthless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-62807357782751746322012-08-24T15:41:03.974-07:002012-08-24T15:41:03.974-07:00"For college girls these days, an overly seri..."For college girls these days, an overly serious suitor fills the same role an accidental pregnancy did in the 19th century: a danger to be avoided at all costs, lest it get in the way of a promising future."<br /><br />It is probably correct that many young women THINK a serious relationship will get in the way of their careers...but really, why should this be the case? Employers don't fire women because they're married any more. An undesired pregnancy is no more likely in marriage than in successive hookups; probably less because of alcohol and psychological ("I just got carried away") factors. And living with a husband is really not inherently more time-consuming than pursuing hookups and hanging out with friends.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-21363360604539430082012-08-24T15:25:03.879-07:002012-08-24T15:25:03.879-07:00@JP
Are you describing feminists as "outlier...@JP<br /><br />Are you describing feminists as "outliers?" Perish the thought. I assumed they spoke for all women, and they were combat-qualified soldiers in the fight against the "Republican War on Women." <br /><br />And let's be honest... no woman would deem herself "average" anyway. Again, perish the thought. My wife is not "average." Can you imagine telling your wife she is an "average" woman? Egad.<br /><br />All kidding aside, you are correct about "the current program." It is an outlier, a sub-culture that deems itself morally and culturally superior to all the ignorant people who are under the spell of the "patriarchy." It is a narrow worldview, and gets narrower with each passing year. The most vocal elements are mostly confined to academia. That's why Women's Studies programs have such a positive impact on women's self-image. Most spend their first years after college in a detox and societal re-integration program called "dating."<br /><br />TipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-68834001821581831992012-08-24T13:32:53.318-07:002012-08-24T13:32:53.318-07:00@Sam - "I don't know what "women&quo...@Sam - "I don't know what "women" want, but I'm pretty sure that individually they don't all want the very same thing. Telling them they must, as the "feminists" are doing, will lead to a lot of unhappy women. It seems to have."<br /><br />I think that the point is that the *average* woman is going to be relatively unhappy pursing the feminist plan due to the architypical nature of human femininity.<br /><br />There are always individual outliers.<br /><br />However, the current program is generating significant problems because it's only applicable to a narrow subsection of women and simply cannot serve as any kind of societal ideal or standard.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-91028875945985798062012-08-24T13:11:21.111-07:002012-08-24T13:11:21.111-07:00I don't know what "women" want, but ...I don't know what "women" want, but I'm pretty sure that individually they don't all want the very same thing. Telling them they must, as the "feminists" are doing, will lead to a lot of unhappy women. It seems to have.Sam L.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-20310317912012684802012-08-24T10:52:35.648-07:002012-08-24T10:52:35.648-07:00Exactly....Exactly....Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-63963025598685443052012-08-24T10:25:15.728-07:002012-08-24T10:25:15.728-07:00"...a danger to be avoided at all costs, lest... "...a danger to be avoided at all costs, lest it get in the way of a promising future."<br /><br />What she means by 'promising future' is actually 'promising career'. The two are not the same.Zbignunoreply@blogger.com