tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post1617298492469961738..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: Emotional Intelligence and DelinquencyStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-81699472062064569812014-11-05T05:18:05.652-08:002014-11-05T05:18:05.652-08:00Interesting hypothesis & study. But the scale...Interesting hypothesis & study. But the scale for "delinquent behavior" seemed to oriented toward the kind of things bad boys would be likely to do, rather than the kind of things they were hyphothesizing bad girls would be likely to do, such as knife-in-the-back gossip.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-61495797131856105212014-11-05T04:41:47.322-08:002014-11-05T04:41:47.322-08:00And high-EI thugs are also quite sensitive about n...And high-EI thugs are also quite sensitive about not wanting to be "dissed," which is urban slang for "disrespected." When you consider the minor social infractions that define being "dissed," you wonder if such characters are emotionally intelligent at all. Yet they later go to prison for high transgressions, which are never their fault, you know, because they were so "dissed." After all, it is sensible that someone has to be wounded, maimed or killed because of such a terrible slight. The thug's subjective emotional value system allows them to retain their honor/pride, and have great self-esteem. How about the recipient of the street justice that was meted out to resolve one's being "dissed"? This is why sound thinking about EI is really based on effective choices and superior outcomes, not just empathy, which will justify prideful rage and enable manipulation. You can empathize with the best of 'em and make terrible choices that harm self and others. The primacy of empathy as a high cultural value has raised emotional subjectivity and fleeting feelings to become the ultimate justification for all sorts of antisocial behavior, as well as prideful pandering to another's weakness, rather than their greatness. The result? Chaos. Pure, unmitigated emotional anarchy. It's quite insane. But we all get to be right, because our feelings tell us so. How reassuring. Pardon me if I throw up amidst all this self-congratulation, which is always the hallmark of high liberal thought. Forget the results... it's the intentions that matter!Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-25500871299402863302014-11-05T04:18:34.166-08:002014-11-05T04:18:34.166-08:00The people with the highest levels of self-esteem ...The people with the highest levels of self-esteem are incarcerated criminals. I can only assume that emotionally intelligent delinquents have strong self-esteem, too. And there is nothing more important than self-esteem. Ask anyone.Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-80842230220921776092014-11-05T01:46:38.730-08:002014-11-05T01:46:38.730-08:00I peeked at the original paper, so its looking at ...I peeked at the original paper, so its looking at "senation seeking" behavior in relation to EI.<br /><br />What's interesting to me is to also consider that GIRLS physical activity tend to NOSEDIVE after puberty, while BOYS tend to be more active with sports and other physical activity.<br /><br />Wouldn't it be wild to find out the girls who were abusing their EI were actually physical-activity starved? What if they had been encouraged into directing their surplus energy into sports, they'd be less likely to abuse their EI skills?<br /><br />Of course maybe it's just biology that girls become sedentary after age 10, and eliminating Gym class from schools has nothing to do with this "natural" process of girls growing up?<br /><br />http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/14789949.2014.943796<br />"Results indicated that sensation seeking and frequency of DB were positively associated, but this effect was moderated by trait EI for male participants – those with lower trait EI showed a greater increase in delinquency, in line with a rise in sensation seeking. No moderation effect was observed for females, and females with higher levels of trait EI reported more DB."Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-47514241529082825182014-11-04T21:52:27.565-08:002014-11-04T21:52:27.565-08:00Why not just call it emotience?Why not just call it emotience?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-24956840146985952172014-11-04T18:32:01.873-08:002014-11-04T18:32:01.873-08:00re: One understands that many people can easily co...re: One understands that many people can easily confuse emotional intelligence with empathy. If the empath feels your pain, someone with emotional intelligence sees an emotion as a piece of information. He makes use of it in making a decision.<br /><br />I agree there's easy confusion. Like Simon Baron-Cohen's Empathizing–systemizing theory differentates between a Empathy Quotient (EQ) and Systemizing Quotient (SQ).<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathizing-systemizing_theory<br /><br />Meanwhile we have "Emotional intelligence (EI) as an ability to monitor one's own and other people's emotions, to discriminate between different emotions and label them appropriately, and to use emotional information to guide thinking and behavior."<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence<br /><br />And this paragraph suggests why this is an important skill:<br />"Studies have shown that people with high EI have greater mental health, exemplary job performance, and more potent leadership skills. Markers of EI and methods of developing it have become more widely coveted in the past few decades. In addition, studies have begun to provide evidence to help characterize the neural mechanisms of emotional intelligence."<br /><br />So I wonder how these two theories relate. It also makes me wonder how they are measured, and if there is a gender difference in how EI is USED in people by gender, we might also consider this is in part CAUSED by how EI is MEASURED.<br /><br />I also wonder about the study, looking only at college age women. It does make sense that "power corrupts" so if young women find their EI gives them a social advantage, they may abuse that power for a few years until the learn the consequences.<br /><br />The wiki article talks about this:<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_intelligence#Confusing_skills_with_moral_qualities<br />"Adam Grant warned of the common but mistaken perception of EI as a desirable moral quality rather than a skill, Grant asserting that a well-developed EI is not only an instrumental tool for accomplishing goals, but has a dark side as a weapon for manipulating others by robbing them of their capacity to reason."<br /><br />So is EI a skill or an intelligence? If you called it "Emotional skill", perhaps there'd be less confusions as well?Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.com