tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post1913720724159730368..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: Defending Sheryl SandbergStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-47735653093741955752017-02-05T05:32:31.332-08:002017-02-05T05:32:31.332-08:00The entire feminism movement is a sham. There is ...The entire feminism movement is a sham. There is nothing holding women back - No Thing. Except of course, their undeniable and completely unhinged vagina gazing. Stop. Just stop. Go make yourselves useful - and by that I don't mean join a movement, carry signs, and take your girl children to disgusting displays of "sisterhood". I mean contribute, with all you've got, to whatever you might choose to be; mother, business titan, artist, employee, inventor, scientist, wife.<br /><br />Twenty years ago, with a high school education and a certificate in a trade, I was mentored by outstanding and successful men who not only believed in me, but also saw the contributions I was capable of making. To the point where I was promoted to the 'corner office' with a corporate title. This occurred not as a result of leaning in, but by hard work, long hours, willingness to learn and yes, loyalty. <br /><br />Imagine the outrage if men applied the same standards to their employment as women do. "You're not promoting me because I have a penis!!" Somehow I don't think it would fly. <br /><br />Sadly, what women think they <b>deserve</b> has replaced their willingness to prove what they are capable of <b>earning</b> and until that dialogue changes, we are, men and women alike, collectively screwed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-27119307558692589832017-02-05T05:30:51.503-08:002017-02-05T05:30:51.503-08:00Sam L. said... Ares: "So like Sally Yates get...Sam L. said... Ares: "So like Sally Yates getting fired for challenging the legality of Trump's executive order. That's leaning in, the correct way, even if she was in an intern role, and the cost was low for her career." ... As I recall, she is not the one who can say it's legal or illegal.<br /><br />Ironically (Currently nominated AG) Jeff Sessions previously recommended Yates say no the president's unlawful orders in 2015, and she agreed.<br /><br />http://www.vox.com/2017/1/31/14451228/sessions-yates-confirmation-trump-fired<br />----<br /> Sessions: You have to watch out, because people will be asking you to do things that you just need to say no about. Do you think the attorney general has a responsibility to say no to the president if he asks for something that’s improper? <br /><br />A lot of people defended the [Loretta] Lynch nomination by saying well, [then-President Obama] appoints somebody who’s going to execute his views. What’s wrong with that? But if the views that the president wants to execute are unlawful, should the attorney general or the deputy attorney general say no?<br /><br /> Yates: Senator, I believe that the attorney general or the deputy attorney general has an obligation to follow the law and the Constitution, and to give their independent legal advice to the president.<br />----<br /><br />Maybe the lesson here is that AG should be of the opposite party of the president? Of course a person of integrity shouldn't need to be the opposition to do their job. Sessions and Yates apparently agree on that.<br /><br />Anyway, a judge has now agreed with her assessment.<br />http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/federal-judge-temporarily-halts-trump-travel-ban-nationwide-ag-says/<br /><br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-5300368460394166382017-02-04T20:26:34.901-08:002017-02-04T20:26:34.901-08:00Some related thoughts at my post Ambition and Oppo...Some related thoughts at my post Ambition and Opportunism:<br /><br />http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/31871.htmlDavid Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-26957468894679776812017-02-04T19:33:18.180-08:002017-02-04T19:33:18.180-08:00IAC, you are too kind.IAC, you are too kind.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-67787401777548732382017-02-04T14:12:50.815-08:002017-02-04T14:12:50.815-08:00Ares Olympus @February 4, 2017 at 6:32 AM:
I migh...Ares Olympus @February 4, 2017 at 6:32 AM:<br /><br />I might need to explain the "Chirping Crickets" reference I made in my immediately prior comment of 2:07 PM: <br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket_(insect)<br /><br />Just scroll down to 5.5 -- the "In popular culture" heading near the bottom. Last sentence. Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-42876128067420668472017-02-04T14:07:29.000-08:002017-02-04T14:07:29.000-08:00"Do you want women to succeed in business, or..."Do you want women to succeed in business, or not?"<br /><br />[Cue "Crickets Chirping" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re72di5phM0]<br /><br />Oh dear, let's not focus on results. Results are stubborn things. <br /><br />It's much easier to bond through bitching. No risk, and it feeds inertial through unhealthy relationships. What could be more fun?<br /><br />If it's not about challenging the system, then it's just about complaining about the system. That makes much more sense. But you don't need allies and a "movement" or a "manual to cooperate with authority" to do that. You can just order a cosmo with a friend and let fly.<br /><br />So what's this really about, ladies? Again, life has never been so good for American women, yet American women seem more unhappy. I don't get it.Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-9183392543725116682017-02-04T13:57:35.271-08:002017-02-04T13:57:35.271-08:00Trigger Warning @February 4, 2017 at 10:59 AM:
Lo...Trigger Warning @February 4, 2017 at 10:59 AM:<br /><br />Love feminism's hate.Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-47471378937026859582017-02-04T12:17:53.751-08:002017-02-04T12:17:53.751-08:00Feminism. OY!Feminism. OY!Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-60459178170924454182017-02-04T10:59:34.432-08:002017-02-04T10:59:34.432-08:00Feminism hates.Feminism hates.Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-36815826596672802932017-02-04T10:29:02.578-08:002017-02-04T10:29:02.578-08:00Sam L. @February 4, 2017 at 9:26 AM:
Feminism hat...Sam L. @February 4, 2017 at 9:26 AM:<br /><br />Feminism hates women. Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-73947280383267921002017-02-04T09:26:59.768-08:002017-02-04T09:26:59.768-08:00Feminism hates women who think differently.Feminism hates women who think differently.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-44309554518786888302017-02-04T09:25:39.927-08:002017-02-04T09:25:39.927-08:00Ares: "So like Sally Yates getting fired for...Ares: "So like Sally Yates getting fired for challenging the legality of Trump's executive order. That's leaning in, the correct way, even if she was in an intern role, and the cost was low for her career."<br /><br />As I recall, she is not the one who can say it's legal or illegal.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-46759133619278214342017-02-04T06:32:48.728-08:002017-02-04T06:32:48.728-08:00Is alt-left now a thing?
Anyway, let's see w...Is alt-left now a thing? <br /><br />Anyway, let's see what Olen says:<br />http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/02/03/sheryl_sandberg_s_lean_in_strategy_is_spectacularly_mismatched_to_a_president.html<br />---<br />Still, Sandberg’s model in Lean In is not the one this resistance moment needs. Trump is not a man whom an underling could have a productive “dialogue” with. If reasoned conversation worked with him, surely we would know it by now. Instead, in Trump’s world, it’s bully or be bullied.<br />...<br />Lean In was never about challenging the system. It was an updated manual for cooperating with authority so you could make a run at the corner office. In retrospect, the American embrace of it might demonstrate how all too many of us have bought into the language of the self-help movement, not to mention the myth of the heroic businessman (and woman) that’s so pervasive it just got an unqualified man elected president.<br />...<br />Sandberg tells this story as a way of showing that she’s changed. Au contraire. She’s the same people-pleaser who believes the best progress is made not by being angry and demanding but by being measured and likeable. There’s a time and a place for that, but in our current moment, it’s not the recipe for progress.<br />---<br /><br />It all is very confusing to me, or Trump is confusing. Its not just a matter of bully or be bullied. That is the emotional hook in Trump is his abuse of power, but more you fall for that hook, the more power you give him, and so its absolutely true that "being angry and demand" isn't a winning strategy. The only works for people who already have power, who don't need "respect."<br /><br />And respect is one of those funny terms. Bullies say they want to be respected, but they do things that are not respectible. So we have to differentiate between "respect through fear" and "respect through admiration." If you have power to cause harm to other people, many people will defer to you, won't directly challenge you for fear that telling the truth to any given situation will have a personal cost.<br /><br />It is really hard for me to imagine how "self-promotion" can work at all, except for asking for a chance to demonstrate your worth in action. And there's probably a reason that professionals hirer agents to do their negociations. Even having an agent is a sign of status, someone to advocate for you.<br /><br />But the real question of "leaning in" to would come down to not self-promotion, but truth-promotion. If you're afraid to say and defend what's true, you don't deserve to be in any position of leadership. And so every leader or CEO has to be selfless, seeing the success of the organization being more important than their own well-being.<br /><br />So like Sally Yates getting fired for challenging the legality of Trump's executive order. That's leaning in, the correct way, even if she was in an intern role, and the cost was low for her career.<br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-firing-of-the-acting-attorney-general-sets-a-dangerous-precedent/2017/01/31/7e085fa0-e7bd-11e6-b82f-687d6e6a3e7c_story.html<br /><br />I've heard serious questions about whether or how people who generally disapprove of Donald Trump should seek or accept positions within his administration. And it seems like the clear answer is "Yes, but don't expect to stay long."<br /><br />And if Trump really does fire people who challenge him, and keep "people-pleasers" who are happy to stroke his ego whenever they want some personal perk, that would be a good sign that his presidency won't last, and that power will be abused at all levels and he'll have no idea what's going on, because no one will speak up to tell him what he doesn't want to hear.<br /><br />So I'll agree Olen is wrong, but mainly because it seems like she's seeing things black&white, and can't see that priorities have to be set, where to speak up, and where to hold your tongue, and if you make a mountain of every mole hill, you won't last.Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-57143803204288714202017-02-04T06:26:04.716-08:002017-02-04T06:26:04.716-08:00Sandberg is finding out what it feels like to be o...Sandberg is finding out what it feels like to be on the receiving end of an SJW "point-and-shriek" campaign. Very amusing and fun to watch, IMO.<br /><br />I am particularly amused by Olen's comment, "[I]n Trump’s world, it’s bully or be bullied..." <br /><br />That's an open invitation for amped-up SJW crybullying, lawbullying, and smash-mouth politics. Bring it on, babe. Show us whatcha got.<br />Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.com