tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post228017144347426277..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: When Women Fake OrgasmsStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-57588298785091316622011-08-27T10:26:34.321-07:002011-08-27T10:26:34.321-07:00Thanks so much for your post, pretty helpful mater...Thanks so much for your post, pretty helpful material.diseno web valenciahttp://www.pcwebsite.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-45190573174341814142010-10-15T07:45:32.342-07:002010-10-15T07:45:32.342-07:00TO: Dr. Schneiderman
RE: Quoting Dworkin
It is a ...TO: Dr. Schneiderman<br />RE: Quoting Dworkin<br /><br /><b>It is a good thing for an uneducated man to read books of quotations. The quotations, when engraved upon the memory, give you good thoughts. They lso make you anxious to read the authors and look for more.</b> -- Sir Winston Churchill<br /><br />And I'm about as 'uneducated' as they come. But I've got several thousand quotes in a database that I search to find the apropos tag-lines. Something of a parthian shot, if you will. Something to drive the 'point' home...to the hilt.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Chuck(le)<br />[Classical quotation is the parole of literary men all over the world. -- Samuel Johnson]<br /><br />P.S. Currently reading Churchill's account of the Malakand Field Force. An operation against the Afghan tribes in the late 19th Century. The introductory chapter is MUST READ for any officer going to that theater of operations.....Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-76747520698418948582010-10-13T10:28:43.432-07:002010-10-13T10:28:43.432-07:00I would not have thought that you would be quoting...I would not have thought that you would be quoting Andrea Dworkin??Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-77017824703490774312010-10-12T13:34:19.862-07:002010-10-12T13:34:19.862-07:00TO: All
RE: An Old Truism....Revisited
There'...TO: All<br />RE: An Old Truism....Revisited<br /><br />There's a saying I have in my collection of taglines. It's about sex and human nature. I do believe I've provided it before, but for the sake of focus, here it is again....<br /><br /><i>You think intercourse is a private act; it's not, it's a social act. Men are sexually predatory in life and <b>women are sexually manipulative</b>. When two individuals come together and leave their gender outside the bedroom door, then they make love.</i> -- Andrea Dworkin<br /><br />The point here, that I suddenly recognize, is that the 'faking it' of women is another example of 'manipulative' behavior on their part.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Chuck(le)<br />[Really, sex and laughter do go very well together, and I wondered - and still do - which is the more important. - Hermione Gingold]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-78375831254043504832010-10-12T07:55:56.370-07:002010-10-12T07:55:56.370-07:00TO: Dr. Schneiderman
RE: No....
And yet, the stud...TO: Dr. Schneiderman<br />RE: No....<br /><br /><i>And yet, the study that provoked this discussion found that men say that their female partners have orgasms far more often than said female partners say that they have orgasms.<br /><br />Tis a puzzlement.</i> -- Stuart Schneiderman<br /><br />....it's not.<br /><br />Re-read my comments and ponder what I'm saying with regards to men being 'ignorant'.<br /><br />The study, from my perspective, confirms my premise. Yes the women ARE faking it. The men can't recognize a 'fake' when they see it BECAUSE they are ignorant of how women behave when they ARE having one. It's pretty obvious—the difference between the fake and the real—if you can read the indicators. But it takes 'experience' to recognize them.<br /><br />Maybe these guys ought to take some classes in military intelligence, specifically Intelligence Preparation of the Battlefield (IPB). It might teach them to how to recognize 'indicators'.<br /><br />Now I will recognize that some women hold back expressions of their pleasure. For what reasons....well....maybe some comments above speak to that, BUT when it comes to the finale, it's difficult for them to fake the REAL thing. Probably because they've never experienced the real thing and don't know what to 'fake'.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Chuck(le)<br />[Sexual harrassment in this area will not be reported. But, it will be graded!]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-14123633731798707832010-10-12T07:06:35.713-07:002010-10-12T07:06:35.713-07:00Thanks for informing us about Drucker's remark...Thanks for informing us about Drucker's remarks. It seems to suggest that these patients were more likely suffering from anomie than neurosis.<br /><br />I sympathize with Chuck's position that most of the time men should be able to know whether a woman is enjoying a sexual experience.<br /><br />And yet, the study that provoked this discussion found that men say that their female partners have orgasms far more often than said female partners say that they have orgasms.<br /><br />Tis a puzzlement.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-37738633245948664052010-10-11T19:50:27.816-07:002010-10-11T19:50:27.816-07:00Speaking of Freud....Peter Drucker, who grew up in...Speaking of Freud....Peter Drucker, who grew up in Austria, said that Viennans were generally much less repressed than one would assume from reading Freud, and that many of Freud's patients were recent migrants from villages who were still really part of that culture.<br /><br />He said the real obsessions and repressions of Viennans were much more about *money* than about sex.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-41294196640495688002010-10-11T14:28:28.315-07:002010-10-11T14:28:28.315-07:00TO: All
RE: As I Said Earlier....
....men will kn...TO: All<br />RE: As I Said Earlier....<br /><br />....men will know—or perhaps men who 'understand'—if she's having a wonderful time.<br /><br />If the man can't tell. Then she is NOT having a wonderful time. And, some may be able to 'fake' it. But I have serious doubts about faking it 'not'.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Chuck(le)<br />[Experience is the best teacher.]<br /><br />P.S. Too bad for those who have lots of experiences but never experiencing THAT.Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-19341942556005690522010-10-11T10:34:46.775-07:002010-10-11T10:34:46.775-07:00I haven't ever heard of a woman faking not hav...I haven't ever heard of a woman faking <i>not</i> having an orgasm, and I'm unable to think of any credible reason why this might be so. Perhaps to punish the man?<br /><br />I've heard women say that one should never fake an orgasm, because "it's giving him credit for something he doesn't deserve," but I think that this is a highly critical view of male performance. After all, each women has her own rhythms and cues, and she needs to teach her lover how to please her. Depending on the activity, that may be taught in ten minutes or over many lovemaking sessions. I do agree that women are responsible for their own orgasms.<br /><br />There are times when women fake it not because their partner is doing something wrong, but because they can feel that their body is not cooperating in becoming aroused. When a man is a considerate lover, we don't want him to take it personally when we know the problem lies with us. I imagine it's quite similar to the way men feel when they lose their erection and women try to take the blame. Because our orgasms are hidden, it's a simple matter for us to fake it and keep our lovers happy.<br /><br />The <i>real</i> problem arises when women fake it regularly with someone they are involved with, because they feel inadequate for not having easy orgasms. They paint themselves into a corner - and it becomes increasingly difficult to make changes without confessing that you've been faking it for some period of time. Personally, I advise women not to fake it, because the risk of this happening is high.Susan Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01984275712518966508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-48089789589699308012010-10-11T09:09:59.597-07:002010-10-11T09:09:59.597-07:00Now, we will all keep wondering.
Perhaps some wom...Now, we will all keep wondering.<br /><br />Perhaps some women can enlighten us on this matter.<br /><br />The reasons might range from modesty and restraint to wanting more.<br /><br />Some women might feel that it is not ladylike to make very open display of the experience of having pleasure.<br /><br />One wonders whether they would admit to have had an orgasm, if asked, or whether the deception also leads to a direct lie.<br /><br />But, what if some one them have a reason for tricking their partners.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-38371932950221111452010-10-11T08:57:38.833-07:002010-10-11T08:57:38.833-07:00I didn't see that segment, since I was getting...I didn't see that segment, since I was getting ready for mine & was running late, so I will forever wonder what was said.<br /><br />The question is not only "how" but "why"...David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-24879720289467988842010-10-11T08:52:10.799-07:002010-10-11T08:52:10.799-07:00I imagine that it's true that women can preten...I imagine that it's true that women can pretend not to have orgasms, but I was wondering whether David recalls the reasoning behind it.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-74943545527904932872010-10-11T08:39:32.818-07:002010-10-11T08:39:32.818-07:00TO: David
RE: Really?
I noticed that the segment ...TO: David<br />RE: Really?<br /><br /><i>I noticed that the segment before mine was about "women who fake *not* having orgasms".</i> -- David<br /><br />I find that rather difficult to accept, that they can fake NOT having one.<br /><br />Either that or they are some form of weird high-level Zen Buddhist master....er....mistress.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Chuck(le)<br />[Instant sex will never be better than the kind you have to peel and cook.]Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-24682070209129844602010-10-11T08:06:46.938-07:002010-10-11T08:06:46.938-07:00Several years ago I was on a panel discussion (bus...Several years ago I was on a panel discussion (business-related) at some weird TV station. I noticed that the segment before mine was about "women who fake *not* having orgasms"David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-64177232341514858892010-10-11T06:34:01.145-07:002010-10-11T06:34:01.145-07:00With due respect to the Kama Sutra, Bradley was ex...With due respect to the Kama Sutra, Bradley was explaining that men are not going to become better lovers if they are made to feel inadequate.<br /><br />I was trying to say that excessive praise for bad performance and criticism for bad performance were both counterproductive. The problem is, how to find a middle ground... to communicate what needs to be said without making the other person feel incompetent.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-55696751913758286812010-10-10T21:39:06.700-07:002010-10-10T21:39:06.700-07:00"When women fake orgasm men lose out on a lea..."When women fake orgasm men lose out on a learning oppurtunity.<br /><br />How will men ever become good lovers if women keep faking orgasm?"<br /><br />Kama Sutra<br />Chapter 3<br />Sutra 47Proud Hindunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-6744802949982333362010-10-10T14:46:13.848-07:002010-10-10T14:46:13.848-07:00This is really, really an old hippie baby boomer t...This is really, really an old hippie baby boomer thing...<br /><br />--GrayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-54732273797083591002010-10-10T14:09:23.754-07:002010-10-10T14:09:23.754-07:00TO: BTS
RE: Well....
Women fake orgasms because t...TO: BTS<br />RE: Well....<br /><br /><i>Women fake orgasms because they think we care.</i> -- BTS<br /><br />...actually, many of us do.<br /><br />On the other hand, those that don't care about their partners are likely to lose them. There's something about being 'insensitive', especially about sex, that galls them.<br /><br />On the third hand, if you're experienced enough, you don't have to worry about it, as you KNOW. As the Oracle says in....<br /><br /><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/" title="The Matrix on IMDb" rel="nofollow"><b>It means know thy self. I wanna tell you a little secret, being the one is just like being in love. No one needs to tell you you are in love, you just know it, through and through. </b></a><br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Chuck(le)<br />[Understanding is a three-edged sword. There's one side. There's the other side. And then there is the Truth. -- Captain Sheridan understanding Ambassador Kosh, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105946/" title="Babylon 5" rel="nofollow"><b>Babylon 5</b></a>Chuck Peltohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00407516830005550495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-2906660641190997492010-10-10T11:19:27.484-07:002010-10-10T11:19:27.484-07:00Great! Thanks for getting right to the point.Great! Thanks for getting right to the point.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-78335236862331266272010-10-10T11:13:10.689-07:002010-10-10T11:13:10.689-07:00Women fake orgasms because they think we care.Women fake orgasms because they think we care.By The Swordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16799389743529116360noreply@blogger.com