tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post2991109654970042746..comments2024-03-18T08:02:51.154-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: Peggy Noonan's "Sane Donald Trump"Stuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-25407762963602081532016-10-22T20:30:33.792-07:002016-10-22T20:30:33.792-07:00Gotta love the WSJ's daily above-the-fold atta...Gotta love the WSJ's daily above-the-fold attacks on Trump. Today's is a real gem: Trump's Facebook posts as "hate speech." Murdoch has really helped the WSJ become better, hasn't he? Juvenile. The Bancrofts may love their money, but they've gotta be sad about what News Corp has done tot he paper itself. Murdoch is a disgrace. Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-1150403348748929542016-10-22T17:58:48.517-07:002016-10-22T17:58:48.517-07:00TW? Check out THIS Killjoy: http://archive.is/lU...TW? Check out THIS Killjoy: http://archive.is/lU99w<br /><br />You others should check this out, too. It applies to Saturday's post on gender.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-35544332922793193432016-10-21T16:41:56.721-07:002016-10-21T16:41:56.721-07:00On a "real woman", it looks like Stuart ...On a "real woman", it looks like Stuart covered that one year ago, at least on being a lady.<br />http://stuartschneiderman.blogspot.com/2015/10/being-lady.html<br /><br />Alas, I commented first and was disappointed by terribly boring and random list.<br /><br />The answer will have to remain a mystery.<br /><br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-6533527439759410942016-10-21T16:38:41.463-07:002016-10-21T16:38:41.463-07:00Am not. Am not. Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-24659954150709080052016-10-21T15:22:40.045-07:002016-10-21T15:22:40.045-07:00TW IAC,
Thanks for the laugh.TW IAC,<br /><br />Thanks for the laugh.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962996070458991675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-644525906624400242016-10-21T14:42:38.545-07:002016-10-21T14:42:38.545-07:00Killjoy.
;-)Killjoy.<br />;-)Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-41167051733960952992016-10-21T13:48:32.310-07:002016-10-21T13:48:32.310-07:00TW, please don't encourage him.TW, please don't encourage him. Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-47710926746471848412016-10-21T12:39:45.727-07:002016-10-21T12:39:45.727-07:00What about real women? Any deep thoughts, hombre?What about real women? Any deep thoughts, hombre?Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-69509602325824452812016-10-21T12:31:05.953-07:002016-10-21T12:31:05.953-07:00Stuart: Real men are humble. Real men give everyon...Stuart: Real men are humble. Real men give everyone credit for their success and take sole responsibility for their failures. Trump has reversed it. Thus, more macho than manliness.<br /><br />Usually I see the phrase "real men" when someone is trying to manipulate a man to follow women's rules of how men are supposed to act. I'm sort of surprised to have Stuart use it.<br /><br />The standard I'd suggest for "Real men" comes from a poem by Rudyard Kipling, although its a bit tragic of a poem since 20 years later his eldest son John joined the great war as a leader among men and got himself killed at age 18, and that broke Kipling's heart, as the stories tell.<br /><br />The poem is called "if". Certainly anyone contemplating public service should learn this by heart. Critics are brutal, and more dishonest than they think. The English really are an amazing people, their Empire wasn't an accident. And I presume Stuart sees them one of his admired shame cultures.<br /><br />Also this week I saw that letter from George H. W. Bush to Bill Clinton in 1993 as Bill took office. Probably we can agree this letter was written by a "real man", or at least a gentleman.<br />http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/21/politics/hillary-clinton-letter-george-bush/index.html<br /><br />And to Kipling's vision:<br />https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/46473<br />---<br />IF<br /><br />If you can keep your head when all about you <br /> Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, <br />If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,<br /> But make allowance for their doubting too; <br />If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,<br /> Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,<br />Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,<br /> And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:<br /><br />If you can dream—and not make dreams your master; <br /> If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim; <br />If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster<br /> And treat those two impostors just the same; <br />If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken<br /> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,<br />Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,<br /> And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:<br /><br />If you can make one heap of all your winnings<br /> And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,<br />And lose, and start again at your beginnings<br /> And never breathe a word about your loss;<br />If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew<br /> To serve your turn long after they are gone, <br />And so hold on when there is nothing in you<br /> Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’<br /><br />If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, <br /> Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,<br />If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,<br /> If all men count with you, but none too much;<br />If you can fill the unforgiving minute<br /> With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run, <br />Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it, <br /> And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!<br />---Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-20468962015217575232016-10-21T10:20:47.220-07:002016-10-21T10:20:47.220-07:00Stuart, with all due respect, you've reserved ...Stuart, with all due respect, you've reserved a particular level of contempt and vitriol with Trump on a personal level that does not match that which you have directed at Hillary. Manliness is about standing for what you believe, not yielding to pressure and traditional campaigning around political expediency. <br /><br />I'm on this blog every day because I value what you have to say and your readers' commentary (Ares notwithstanding). <br /><br />Let's be clear: it's easy to get up on a stage on 5 days rest and preparation, hopped up on all sorts of meds,, under a moon crust's worth of makeup, and look like a winner for 90 minutes saying the same droll crap we've heard from so many candidates over so many years, pandering to women and saying the Constitution means whatever she wants it to mean... complete with willful accomplices in broadcast media to carry her water while she can't walk, stand up or look with it. <br /><br />This is a rigged game. Trump may win, but even with a close loss would be astounding with the chorus of lockstep voices against him. If the press was this stacked against her, she'd call for the complete repeal of the First Amendment. Instead we're left listening to an apoplectic press corps reacting to what Trump said about honoring the election results, as if he could've answered any other way without wrecking his campaign or green-lighting massive voter fraud. We're a long way from the heroics of Woodward and Bernstein. Hillary should be in jail waiting for a pardon!<br />Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-62217864575389477232016-10-21T09:55:02.121-07:002016-10-21T09:55:02.121-07:00David Foster @October 21, 2016 at 8:04 AM:
"...David Foster @October 21, 2016 at 8:04 AM:<br /><br />"I am tired of Republicans who endlessly analyze Trump's flaws without giving equal time and attention to those of the alternative."<br /><br />Amen. Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-62042328330782465612016-10-21T08:24:40.202-07:002016-10-21T08:24:40.202-07:00For the record, no one around here has ignored Hil...For the record, no one around here has ignored Hillary's flaws.The problem was the contrast between the way she handled herself during the first debate and the way Trump handled himself.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-91798787115219809042016-10-21T08:10:32.895-07:002016-10-21T08:10:32.895-07:00I don't think Hillary Clinton is particularly ...I don't think Hillary Clinton is particularly stable, emotionally speaking; there are many stories of her flying off the handle and vitriolically insulting those around her. Even when the people being insulted are people she was trying to enlist in what may have been a criminal conspiracy, and at the least was something she desperately wanted kept quiet. If you want people to keep quiet about something, wouldn't it make sense to refrain from insulting them?<br /><br />I am tired of Republicans who endlessly analyze Trump's flaws without giving equal time and attention to those of the alternative.David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-48791469192581343622016-10-21T08:04:33.472-07:002016-10-21T08:04:33.472-07:00I'm pretty much with TW and IAC, except for Pe...I'm pretty much with TW and IAC, except for Peggy. I can't get over her going for The Won.<br /><br />Stuart, I'm with you on Obama setting up the conditions, but the GOP did a LOT of the support structure by shooting down the tea Party folks and continuing to ignore the base. I simply can not support the GOP. Individual Republicans, yes, but not the Party. "Obama chimed in that he respected Kaepernick’s disloyalty—he called it dissent..." Leftists LOVE dissent, if and only if it's their dissent. Otherwise, it's raaaaacist, misogynistic, all kinds of "...phobic", and on, and on...<br /><br />Lastly, there's this, presented for your consideration:<br />http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2016/10/forecast-that-got-every-race-right.htmlSam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-20007738765268402612016-10-21T07:09:00.190-07:002016-10-21T07:09:00.190-07:00This election has proven one thing to me, beyond a...This election has proven one thing to me, beyond a shadow of a doubt: American elites are embarrassed of their own country, and disparage our history, traditions and values. Meanwhile, and by extension, they have contempt for their fellow citizens. Obama is their guy, 0% interest rates are their kinds of economics, and the faster they can dilute the number of white people in this country, the better they'll feel about themselves... so long as they can find ways around racial preferences so as to benefit their own children. That's the game: "We take care of our own. F*** the rest of you."<br /><br />It's cool and sophisticated to hate Donald Trump. But the extension of it is that it is now normal and acceptable to hate about half the country that supports him, or looks/acts like the people that support him. And be patronizing toward the other 40%.<br /><br />Peggy Noonan is a thoughtful analyst, and an excellent one. She brings a human dimension to the economic, intellectual, wonkish WSJ editorial pages. But she is not beyond the reach of the elites and their ways. Like all of us, she wants to fit in. And it's fun to say someone is a nut.<br /><br />What is nutty is that these people have fallen for it again: the Democrat way of assassinating the character of their opponent in the most vicious ways through their communications team (the media), while having to explain nothing about their beliefs and policies. Has Donald Trump been an unusual candidate, and a political amateur? You bet. Can he be a jerk? You bet. Are some of his policy stances way outside Republican orthodoxy? Yes, they are. <br /><br />That said, look at his opponent. Is she an unusual candidate, a political amateur? Yes, she is... she wouldn't have any standing if she were not someone else's wife. Can she be a jerk? She's as cold as a witch's tit, with the ambition of Lucifer. She has no real friends. No one wants to be with her, save Huma. Her daughter is a spoilt brat. Her husband is a insatiable philanderer. What kind of person does this happen to? A good soul??? Are some of her policy stances way outside Democrat orthodoxy? No, they are not. Is she corrupt? Manifestly. <br /><br />So, echoing what Trigger Warning says above, look at (1) the way Trump and Clinton act on a basic human level, (2) the people they surround themselves with, (3) how they've amassed their fortunes, and (4) the lives of their own children. There's no contest. Trump builds things and trusts the people around him. Clinton wants to tell you what to do because she knows everything. Hell, Khazir Khan lectured Donald Trump on the Constitution, did you hear Hillary's answers Wednesday night? Good grief. If there need to be more defense budget cuts, she'll be telling us to quarter troops in our homes!<br /><br />People have to wake up to what is going on. This is theater, with a storyline designed to yield an ending that benefits wealthy donors and powerful, entrenched institutions. Forget "1984," we are living "The Hunger Games."<br /><br />As for the issue of Trump not wanting to accept the outcome of the election, what could he have said to that question? If he'd said "Yes," it would've been a capitulation. What do we get? More phony outrage -- the core Democrat strategy and spectacles of the past year. And we find out through Wikileaks that Democrat operatives -- including a handicapped person -- have been trying to foment violence at Trump rallies. What do we hear from the media roundtables? Crickets. It's a disgrace.<br /><br />The fix is in. Will you stand up to it?Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-90184362533842751562016-10-21T06:37:20.548-07:002016-10-21T06:37:20.548-07:00Peggy Noonan, in her WSJ Monday Morning blog on th...Peggy Noonan, in her WSJ Monday Morning blog on the eve of he 2012 election:<br /><br /><i>I think it’s Romney. I think he’s stealing in “like a thief with good tools,” in Walker Percy’s old words. While everyone is looking at the polls and the storm, Romney’s slipping into the presidency. He’s quietly rising, and he’s been rising for a while... Among the wisest words spoken this cycle were by John Dickerson of CBS News and Slate, who said, in a conversation the night before the last presidential debate, that he thought maybe the American people were quietly cooking something up, something we don’t know about. I think they are and I think it’s this: <b>a Romney win</b>.</i><br /><br />Don't get me wrong; I like Peggy Noonan. She's a fine writer. I have her book, <i>The Time of Our Lives</i>. In hardcover! But however wrongulus she may have been, one might argue that, hey, she's a speechwriter, not a psephologist. True enough. But her views were echoed (or perhaps stimulated) by Michael Barone and the loathsome Karl Rove, with their electoral vote strategies and ridiculous whiteboards.<br /><br />But the truth is, nobody knows how this election will turn out because, as it turns out, it will turn on turnout.<br /><br />I don't disagree with the view that Trump is no deep thinker. And he has many character flaws. But Bill Clinton's character flaws were on full display before he was elected, and I will tell you this: if I had a hot teenage daughter, I'd be much more at ease leaving her unsupervised with Donald Trump than with Bill Clinton. And much less likely to lock the silver drawer. And, of course, the character flaws of Barack Obama, Mr "G-d damn America!" were either ignored, hidden (transcripts vs tax returns, anyone?), or we were ordered to avert our eyes. Recall this image?<br /><br />http://bit.ly/2dUqHBT<br /><br />It appears that, despite Noonan's pearl-clutching, Americans don't really give a damn about character. So to postulate Trump's character as a reason he won't get elected its obviously silly. <br /><br />Is he a politician? No.<br />Is he running a "conventional" campaign, following the winning advice of the Noonans, the Barones, and the Roves? No.<br /><br />And before you tell me how brilliant Rove is, consider this:<br /><br /><i>A study Wednesday by the Sunlight Foundation, which tracks political spending, concluded that Rove's super PAC, American Crossroads, had a [2012] success rate of just 1 percent on $103 million in attack ads -- one of the lowest "returns on investment" (ROIs) of any outside spending group in this year's elections.</i><br /><br />Successful businessmen, by definition, simply do not listen to people with track records like that.<br /><br />I suspect Trump is listening to that timeless Sinatra classic, "My Way". <br /><br />And now, the end is near<br />And so I face the final curtain<br />My friend, I'll say it clear<br />I'll state my case, of which I'm certain<br />I've lived a life that's full<br />I've traveled each and every highway<br />But more, much more than this<br />I did it my way...<br /><br />Say what you will about "manliness", Stuart, but it takes stones to live those lyrics.Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.com