tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post3663594360842693240..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: The Decline of Men and BoysStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-37255785762990863932015-09-26T12:27:57.480-07:002015-09-26T12:27:57.480-07:00Ares Olympus @September 25, 2015 at 12:49 PM:
&qu...Ares Olympus @September 25, 2015 at 12:49 PM:<br /><br />"And maybe that's the conservative's argument against diversity and integration, and explaining why segregation is better, and we should all live in gated communities, based on our means, and keep the good fight for cohesive social values."<br /><br />Given your track record, you've outdone yourself. This is the single most idiotic sentence I have yet encountered by your hand. Keep up the good work! You're getting more superlative by the day. For someone who pontificates about seeing nuance and both sides of an issue, replete with tangential Wikipedia references, this statement is breathtakingly vacuous... absolutely bereft of thought. Too bad for you Obama isn't running in another election... you could be a fitting member of his strategy team on housing and urban development, finding some coercive regulatory means to make people live with each other in the utopian master society. This ideal community will be based on an optimal mixture of immutable characteristics, as given by statistical models determined by sociologists. Ares, the God of War, saving us all from ourselves, or at very least from the "conservatives" of America. I'm surprised you couldn't squeeze the word Nazi in there somewhere. You're losing your edge. Tsk, tsk.Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-57000353215666235722015-09-25T21:09:10.903-07:002015-09-25T21:09:10.903-07:00Anonymous at 6:27 PM,
I never had heard of the wo...Anonymous at 6:27 PM,<br /><br />I never had heard of the word Homosociality before, but the term makes sense. I had heard of the Mythopoetic men's movement.<br /> <br />Probably you know its beginning are expressed in a Bill Moyers video made 25 years ago with Minnesota native Robert Bly, online now:<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP3HWLIL1Aw A GATHERING OF MEN, WITH ROBERT BLY <br /><br />And there's an annual Minnesota Men's conference started by Robert Bly:<br />http://www.minnesotamensconference.com<br />And they have recently uploaded some videos from their past speakers:<br />https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTweoDsdKJditGqDpmAAKTA<br /><br />And the Mankind Project is also an offshoot:<br />http://mankindproject.org/<br /><br />There's also a small mentor program called Boys to Men, including weekend retreats where they teach leadership and teamwork skills, with other service opportunities and one-on-one mentoring. Its a drop in the bucket to the need, but shows what small groups of people can do to make a small difference.<br />http://www.boystomenmn.org Minnesota<br />http://boystomen.org<br /><br />The mentoring seems to have two sources of men - those who never had kids, and those whose kids are grown. So as Stuart says, get your own family work done first, and then you can be an honest do-gooder and see what else you have to give.<br /><br />And of course most churches have similar youth programs, so there's no excuses for anyone who says they want to give back, or to give recognition they wanted and didn't get from adult men when they were younger.Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-3302845804124266342015-09-25T21:06:13.101-07:002015-09-25T21:06:13.101-07:00Be careful what you wish for; you just might get i...Be careful what you wish for; you just might get it. Feminists are getting what they thought they wanted. The collateral damage is widespread.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-71409151594164132992015-09-25T18:27:45.402-07:002015-09-25T18:27:45.402-07:00Here are a couple of Wikipedia articles relating t...Here are a couple of Wikipedia articles relating to Homosociality and Mythopoetic Men's Movement (MMM):<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosociality<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythopoetic_men%27s_movement<br /><br />Feminsists are never going to discover a pattern of healthy homosocial relationships (for males or females) because they are in a psychological double-bind reenacting and reacting to the wounding customs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-81954063689224310842015-09-25T15:19:04.658-07:002015-09-25T15:19:04.658-07:00Stuart: Feminists have declared war on martial cul...Stuart: Feminists have declared war on martial cultures, and especially the military.<br /><br />This is a cute statement, ''declaring war'' against ''martial cultures''. Is that like declaring war on terrorism?<br /><br />And it looks like warfare itself has been co-opted by reality into a huge video game, where no one sees the whites of the enemies eyes any more. Perhaps the future of war will be based on drones and cyborg robots, controlled by fat couch potatoes sitting at a terminal, ready to press the kill button when the video game says its time to fire.<br /><br />If we want to go back to martial cultures, perhaps we have to go back to Tom Cruise's "The last Samurai" where the machine guns desimated the honorable samurai warriors.<br /><br />As we know there is a difference between warriors and soldiers. Warriors are individuals, like knights, and who are willing to die for what they believe in. In contrast soldiers are there to follow orders, and when they're bored, fool around, as good fortune allows.<br /><br />I wonder which set of values Feminists hate the most? Those who are willing to die to protect society, or those who shoot first and determine who is guilty later, since you can always plant fake evidence on bodies, whether drugs or weaponis to justify your cowardly actions.<br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-283195245486037232015-09-25T15:15:30.493-07:002015-09-25T15:15:30.493-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-88369617288700460162015-09-25T14:11:59.636-07:002015-09-25T14:11:59.636-07:00The profit motive of capitalism has done much to d...The profit motive of capitalism has done much to destroy extended families and communities since a person is motivated to travel in search of higher wages or business opportunities. Feminism should be viewed as a symptom or result of prior social conditions rather than a cause of present conditions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-25140122258995323392015-09-25T12:49:02.679-07:002015-09-25T12:49:02.679-07:00I don't know. Much of this summary analysis so...I don't know. Much of this summary analysis sounds like the same mental mush that the feminists are famous for, especially the blame games.<br /><br />And perhaps it is useful to remember Zimbardo as the author of the "Stanford prison experiment" where he demonstrates boredom and other dangerous emotions could induce young men to sadistic abuse between role-played prisoner and guards.<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Zimbardo<br /><br />And if feminists wanted a reason to demonize men, probably his experiments were ideal. And if it wasn't for the real world version of it, at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, where a few women guards were just as willing to act badly as the men, we might believe abusive behavior was only a male thing.<br /><br />But if I could take anything from conservative analysis it is the value of limits. Boys need something or someone to push against, and this sort of struggles allows them internally to see what their abilities are, and externally see how authority is expressed.<br /><br />So video games provide something to challenge them, but the hundreds of hours of practice needed there for success are taking hundreds of hours away from more subtle skills. So it makes sense good parents set limits on their kids, and since parents can't act alone as kids get older, that they find common ground with other parents in their community to set consistent limits.<br /><br />But its interesting, for any single limit you might set, like taking away soda vending machines from schools, all it takes is one self-righteous rebel who things its their child's constitutional right to drink 12 cans of soda per day so they won't fall asleep in class, so parents who want to set limits can expect zero community support. <br /><br />And maybe that's the conservative's argument against diversity and integration, and explaining why segregation is better, and we should all live in gated communities, based on our means, and keep the good fight for cohesive social values.<br /><br />And finally we'll have good boys, at least on our side of the wall.<br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-67145811706348283072015-09-25T12:32:23.026-07:002015-09-25T12:32:23.026-07:00Gender forcing is a first-order cause of catastrop...Gender forcing is a first-order cause of catastrophic anthropogenic evolutionary dysfunction.<br /><br />The pro-choice/abortion religious doctrine has rationalized the premeditated, indiscriminate killing of over one million Americans annually for money, sex, pleasure, convenience, and a "green" backyard.<br /><br />The congruence revolution, including: feminism, transgenderism, class diversity, has created unprecedented moral hazards.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-89582878964202458782015-09-25T12:27:11.916-07:002015-09-25T12:27:11.916-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.com