tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post3797143767856028500..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: Obama Slows the Long March toward FreedomStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-64422211749484043622010-06-13T09:03:11.911-07:002010-06-13T09:03:11.911-07:00Interesting comments.
1. Jimmy Carter was accused...Interesting comments.<br /><br />1. Jimmy Carter was accused of being an anti-semite and a bigot by those who support Israel. It's in the book The Israel Lobby, as I recall. Carter himself gave interviews on the matter, including NPR. I remember listening. Carter was savaged because he had the gall to say that the Palestinians lived under Apartheid. <br /><br />2. I never said anything in support of Hamas. I defy any of you to find such a statement. What I said was that the American President was right in recognizing the basic humanity of the Palestinian people. Israel's strategy of "punishing" the Palestinians for thier voting for Hamas, has failed. Just like their notions of rooting out Hezbollah in Lebanon, has failed. Now they've pissed off the lone Muslim ally in the world, Turkey. <br /><br />3. And as for Ms. Walsh's statements wrt Ms. Thomas, please note that I didn't say one way or another whether she was right or wrong. What I am saying is that simply, if you say something the Jewish people don't like, you're toast. That doesn't sound very democratic, to me. <br /><br />Oh, and keep in mind, Ms. Thomas is a 90 year old Woman, a far cry from hunting down old Nazi war criminals. <br /><br />The Israel Lobby is a very interesting book. But not necessarily all that surprising. <br /><br />Israel cannot win militarily here. <br /><br />The ObsidianObsidiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-34180517522024172162010-06-12T12:22:28.698-07:002010-06-12T12:22:28.698-07:00Obsidian, are you really claiming here that Israel...Obsidian, are you really claiming here that Israel sacked Helen Thomas? What nonsense! The truth is, she should have been kicked out of the front row at press briefings the minute she started writing opinion. Obviously, her suggestion that Jews return to the land of Auschwitz and Nazi Germany is deeply offensive. Her remarks were rejected by just about every American except Rosie O'Donnell. If she'd had any sympathizers willing to defend her POV, she wouldn't have resigned. <br /><br />I object to the moral relativism that is regularly applied to this problem. The Palestinians have been offered many compromises, and turned them all down. Why? Because they are holding out for the complete and utter destruction of Israel. They would rather starve their own people while firing rockets at Israel than agree to a peaceful compromise. <br /><br />How can you even have a conversation with an opponent whose only aim is to see you obliterated? The Palestinian people are not to blame, but their leaders are. How's that working for them? If Palestinians want to be free, they need to elect leaders who will push for a two-state solution.Susan Walshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01984275712518966508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-1724700115090218212010-06-12T08:32:32.058-07:002010-06-12T08:32:32.058-07:00Hi, Obsidian,
Welcome to the blog. I've read y...Hi, Obsidian,<br />Welcome to the blog. I've read your own blog with great interest and have also read your comments on HookingUpSmart.<br /><br />Here, I fear, you are off the mark. The fact is, the Israelis moved out of Gaza, completely. They left some serious greenhouses that could have been used to brow food. Hamas destroyed them.<br /><br />Once Hamas took over in Gaza they could have built a free society. They did not want to. They set up rocket launchers and fired thousands of rockets into Israel. They killed and terrorized people.<br />If you saw rockets raining down on your home and your family you would not consider them to be ants.<br /><br />As of now they are unwilling to abandon their goal of military conquest in favor of freedom. <br /><br />As it happens, the Palestinians were offered a free state by Bill Clinton. They turned him down.<br /><br />Today, the Israeli government is helping the Palestinian authority on the West Bank to develop free market economic institutions. And there has been great economic progress on the West Bank.<br /><br />Hamas of course is the enemy of freedom, the enemy of progress, the sworn enemy of Israel, and the enemy of everybody who does not think as they think.<br /><br />If any of that is factually inaccurate, I am willing to hear an opposing point of view.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-90196378272281155052010-06-12T06:43:30.549-07:002010-06-12T06:43:30.549-07:00Obsidian,
You sound quite unobjective and biased ...Obsidian,<br /><br />You sound quite unobjective and biased yourself.<br /><br />Jews are humans too, and Israel is a democracy, not a theocracy. Helen Thomas retired and did not just disagree with Israel, she advocated dissolving Israel as a country.<br /><br />I voted for Jimmy Carter as an 18 year old, and have regretted that after the Iran Hostage Crisis. With all due respect, I feel I did damage to America with that vote, and do not admire the man he is today. I wish he had retired to a quiet life.Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06320105485736052679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-57752566276121392492010-06-12T00:52:49.134-07:002010-06-12T00:52:49.134-07:00Hello Dr.,
Don't you think your post was just ...Hello Dr.,<br />Don't you think your post was just a weebit hamfisted? There is nothing wrong in my view with Obama or any other American President recognizing the basic humanity of the Palestinian people. And given Israel's actions in recent years, up to and including those who agree with her right or wrong, in sacking a 90 year old lady for daring to disagree with Israel, really shows the Jewish State for its propensity to use a ball-peen hammer to deal with ants. <br /><br />Israel's got a hue tolerance problem, and so do those who stand with her unflinchingly. They really lost me when they accused former POTUS Jimmy Carter of anti-semitism. Carter, of all people! <br /><br />Come on. <br /><br />With all due respect Doc, I really do think you're not being all that objective here. Perhaps your own personal biases are bleeding through just a weebit? Last time I heard, the Palestinians had just as much a right to be free as anyone else. <br /><br />The ObsidianObsidiannoreply@blogger.com