tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post4615385402806697312..comments2024-03-29T01:07:30.224-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: The Mind of the American College StudentStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-62728622290265663652017-10-18T10:52:43.274-07:002017-10-18T10:52:43.274-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Paulina Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14798621223206656852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-86597942018867694782017-10-18T10:52:02.971-07:002017-10-18T10:52:02.971-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Paulina Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14798621223206656852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-71999967803684543662016-11-29T20:22:41.607-08:002016-11-29T20:22:41.607-08:00Hey Dennis,
I did quote from a wikipedia article ...Hey Dennis,<br /><br />I did quote from a wikipedia article from one of my favorite authors, E.F. Schumacher, but I also have the book itself. Unfortunately the full book is not available online.<br /><br />If you're interested in my quotes or summaries from Wikipedia, YOU can go further too. You can surely find the book at a local library, or get your own copy from Amazon, used copies as cheap as $0.01, of course they add $3.99 for S&H.<br />https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GC6VWJ8<br /><br />And if you happen to read the book and see Wikipedia is misrepresenting the contents of the book, feel free to add a comment about that on the book article talk page, or improve the summary article yourself.<br /><br />I'm sure many Schumacher fans would appreciate your effort.<br /><br />Or you could just ignore it, which is fine too.<br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-79689872666693741192016-11-29T05:29:37.989-08:002016-11-29T05:29:37.989-08:00For one's edification: https://en.wikipedia.or...For one's edification: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academic_use<br />Wikipedia is NOT considered an accurate or reliable source. As has been stated it can be a place to start one's research, but one requires much more than that,especially in the Humanities. Bias has been a problem in Wikipedia contributors.<br /><br />Ares,<br />Is there a time when you think for yourself? The use of a decision tree that takes in the various permutations to explore to reach a well reasoned analysis of a problem vice believing in experts. Bias exist even in supposed experts. So many experts so few experts.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962996070458991675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-5998595453635905412016-11-28T16:39:44.621-08:002016-11-28T16:39:44.621-08:00Key, Trigger Warning, thanks for the corrections, ...Key, Trigger Warning, thanks for the corrections, a bit too punny on my efforts I guess.<br /><br />Incidentally on the issue of the poor state of students these days, Jonathan Haidt offered a presentation on the problems of education between the old standard of truth, and the new standard of justice. He doesn't do any snarky name-calling like saying the Snowflake generation, but otherwise excellent. Is there hope anyone will listen, and can those who listen get through to leadership that can act on it?<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gatn5ameRr8 "Two incompatible sacred values in American universities" Jon Haidt, Hayek Lecture Series <br />----<br />On October 6, 2016, Professor Jonathan Haidt gave a Hayek Lecture at Duke. <br /><br />Professor Haidt argues that conflicts arise at many American universities today because they are pursuing two potentially incompatible goals: truth and social justice. While Haidt thinks both goals are important, he maintains that they can come into conflict. <br /><br />According to some versions of social justice, whenever we observe a disparity of outcomes between races, genders, or other groups, we should infer that injustice has been done. Haidt challenges this view of social justice and shows how it sometimes leads to violations of truth, and even justice.<br /> <br />Haidt concludes that universities should be free to pursue whatever goals – truth or social justice – they want, but that they should make it clear which of these two goals is their “telos” – their highest purpose. He ends with a discussion of his initiative, HeterodoxAcademy.org, to bring more viewpoint diversity to universities in order to improve research and learning.<br />---Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-54669644047527912792016-11-28T13:38:20.844-08:002016-11-28T13:38:20.844-08:00"In other circles it’s called cosmopolitanism..."In other circles it’s called cosmopolitanism, or citizen-of-the-worldism."<br /><br />I call it a chilling combination of blithe ignorance, malignant stupidity and intrepid indifference.Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-34317030114728964262016-11-28T13:37:41.750-08:002016-11-28T13:37:41.750-08:00"Naturally, some commenters have proposed, re..."Naturally, some commenters have proposed, reasonably, that my view of the younger generation is unduly harsh."<br /><br />Not this commenter.<br /><br />What I've found interesting about commenters who think you're too harsh is that they see your critique as a reflection on them: their children, their parenting. You spot it, you got it.Ignatius Acton Chesterton OCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18222603717128565302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-78015184578847891262016-11-28T12:08:47.217-08:002016-11-28T12:08:47.217-08:00And yes, it is scary to imagine where things lead....And yes, it is scary to imagine where things lead... for some people. :-O<br /><br />You need to find a Safe Space to do your sifting.Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-3076302036385108422016-11-28T12:05:07.262-08:002016-11-28T12:05:07.262-08:00Interesting to know you get your advice for higher...Interesting to know you get your advice for higher education from Wikipedia. Good source to start with, but as you expand your language skills, you may be able to utilize books and scholarly articles. Keep up the work!<br /><br />And, by the way, it's not "wrapped attention", it's "rapt attention". I know. Homophones are hard, and there are a lot of them in English. If you learn them one piece at a time, you'll feel more at peace with the language.Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-41442131786438872812016-11-28T11:05:09.387-08:002016-11-28T11:05:09.387-08:00It seems to be a confusing lament by Patrick Denee...It seems to be a confusing lament by Patrick Deneen, mostly talking about a lack of history lessons. He's not demeaning them as the "snowflake" generation.<br /><br />And its extra curious that on the one hand, we have a complaint that each generation seems to take longer and longer to mature, and with grad school and postgrad so many are going to school until they're nearly 30 years old, before they enter a real world where they have to prove themselves and carry their weight, and start to pay off their perhap more than $100k in student loans. <br /><br />And then on the other hand, according to Deneen, students are just Pavlovian dogs, learning to jump through hoops for treats. So its not the treats he's complaining about, but that we've sent them through the wrong hoops, not getting them to properly understand the entire history of ancient civilization in all this delayed adulthood.<br /><br />It does remind me of E.F. Schumacher's advice:<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Guide_for_the_Perplexed#The_tasks_of_humanity<br />---<br />He says that the tasks of an individual can be summed up as follows:<br />1. Learn from society and tradition.<br />2. Interiorize this knowledge, learn to think for yourself and become self-directed.<br />3. Grow beyond the narrow concerns of the ego.<br />---<br /><br />So this article questions whether some 20+ years of schooling is properly educating children in #1. And if we've succeeded, students should not just be parroting what they're told like animals, but using their own sifting process, which we may or may not approve of.<br /><br />And Schumacher's third task is most difficult. At least we can question how people grow past their narrow concerns of the ego, and when we're burdening the latest generation with record levels of student debt, and putting them into a job market that may or may not have something for them to fit into, that's a hard place to step beyond ego. So if you find your path, and start paying down your debts, and start to think how you're going to save $50k for a downpayment for a house and all the modern trappings under life long debt.<br /><br />Anyway, it does seem to be that being in debt makes for bad citizens, people who can't allow themselves to think far beyond their own needs.<br /><br />If I were to offer blame, I'd go for the rapid rate of change in our culture, and so its hard for each generation to even imagine back to their own horrible uncertainty where to fit in an adult world, much less have any honest or good advice how to fit into this brave new world we've created, one where some people get fast-tracked into the elite, while others can work as had as they can for decades and still not find the American Dream within reach.<br /><br />On the good side, is that we all have access to more information about the world, and our past than every before. On the bas side, much of it seems irrelevant to the predicaments at hand. <br /><br />Still, there's no more excuses for ignorance. I remember one professor in college, be brought an alarm clock to class and used it as a prop. He said time is the most important thing we have, and if we want to succeed, we need to stay on task, and focus on what's in front of us. And as he was taking, he wrapped the cord around the clock as a symbol for our wrapped attention.<br /><br />Of course those days were before internet and infinite distractive opportunities young people have now. <br /><br />It is all scary to imagine where things lead, and given the amount of nonsense out there now, it does seem that Carl Sagan's demon haunted world is not avoidable - and we're all prefering to fall back into fear and superstition, than face truths that tell us many of the ways we've handled things in the past just don't work any more.<br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-86439794515001479022016-11-28T08:18:27.976-08:002016-11-28T08:18:27.976-08:00C S Lewis said (quoting very loosely)
"If yo...C S Lewis said (quoting very loosely)<br /><br />"If you want to destroy an infantry unit, you cut it off from its adjacent units. If you want to destroy a generation, you cut it off from other generations"David Fosterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15464681514800720063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-43138421067106382852016-11-28T07:45:25.148-08:002016-11-28T07:45:25.148-08:00"[The] collapse would be the true beginning o..."[The] collapse would be the true beginning of a real education."<br /><br />Precisely the reason I was a Hillary voter until late in the campaign. Channeling Mencken, I felt the hothouse flowers deserved to get what they wanted from a Clinton Presidency "good and hard".Trigger Warningnoreply@blogger.com