tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post4695674879737552089..comments2024-03-29T04:06:37.402-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: Democracy And Her Magic PoniesStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-89425376006719592012018-12-15T10:04:06.009-08:002018-12-15T10:04:06.009-08:00Stuart Schneiderman said...
Plato wrote 2500 ... Stuart Schneiderman said...<br /><br /> Plato wrote 2500 years ago, not 1500 years ago. For my part I largely prefer Aristotle. I can name a few politicians who did not practice sophistry... like Teddy Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. Let's not be totally cynical here. <br /><br />Oh, Stuart... NOT being totally cynical is most exceptionally difficult these days, and we are weak...Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-13506300881420446542018-12-15T04:42:24.859-08:002018-12-15T04:42:24.859-08:00Peggy Noonan. Didn't she also once write an o...Peggy Noonan. Didn't she also once write an op-ed critical of the musical selections of the orchestra on the Titanic as the ship was sinking, due to the fact that it was not sufficiently reflective of the more genteel time and place in which she preferred to exist? Now she directs her criticism at the man who actually volunteered to take the helm in an effort to try to right the foundering ship of state. Out of touch and anachronistic, to be sure. But do keep reminding us of her piffle, if for no other reason than to enjoy the nostalgia of a bygone age, when there was such a thing as America.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-66798145512289215682018-12-15T04:05:57.409-08:002018-12-15T04:05:57.409-08:00It's not a quibble... it's a welcome corre...It's not a quibble... it's a welcome correction... thank you. Sorry for the misinformation.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-32334955912446792222018-12-15T03:25:38.985-08:002018-12-15T03:25:38.985-08:00Just a fact checking quibble.
Unless there are tw...Just a fact checking quibble.<br /><br />Unless there are two Mika B's, Mika of MSNBC is the former niece-in-law of Zbigniew.<br /><br />Zbigniew's nephew wrote a book about his time in Moscow during the 90's.<br /><br />https://www.amazon.com/Casino-Moscow-Adventure-Capitalisms-Frontier/dp/B00DO4WLLA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1544872332&sr=8-1&keywords=moscow+casino<br /><br />It includes an account of how Mika (an IMF economist) guilted him into marriage, because biological clock.Tilcut Hassayampahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16110319096765659216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-23067275959898540762018-12-14T20:11:20.407-08:002018-12-14T20:11:20.407-08:00Actually, our democracy or representative republic...Actually, our democracy or representative republic is probably already dead. Democrats in California have made vote harvesting legal for themselves. Since California has so many representatives in the House they have made it impossible for the states who have free and fair elections to win the house back. Now that the Democrats have learned how to stuff the ballot box in California there is nothing to keep Democrats from setting up the same system in other states. Illuninatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423190828865695564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-71466563361045239132018-12-14T12:16:52.100-08:002018-12-14T12:16:52.100-08:00Plato wrote 2500 years ago, not 1500 years ago. Fo...Plato wrote 2500 years ago, not 1500 years ago. For my part I largely prefer Aristotle. I can name a few politicians who did not practice sophistry... like Teddy Roosevelt and Winston Churchill. Let's not be totally cynical here. Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-46119312574565054042018-12-14T12:02:10.788-08:002018-12-14T12:02:10.788-08:00Noonan is talking about "concrete political a...Noonan is talking about "concrete political accomplishment". Her words, not mine. Ignoring the fact that Noonan immediately contradicts herself by dissing Sarah Palin, who was sitting Governor of Alaska (hick state, I know, not a Ferragamo bag in sight) and by most Alaskans' account doing pretty well at the job, in my view we've had quite enough - a surfeit, in fact - of the "politically accomplished" like Bill Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, John McCain, Ted Kennedy, and Noonan's hero, Mitt Romney - America's Most Impeccably Dressed Technocrat. According to Noonan, IIRC, Romney was going to win because yard signs in Florida or something equally inane. Piffle.<br /><br />And ignoring several billion dollars worth of global real estate development in wildly varying political environments as, ironically, hard and concrete accomplishment is a feat achievable only by a select few academic theoreticians.Dr. Irredeemable Dregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-71610449038642756592018-12-14T11:54:11.954-08:002018-12-14T11:54:11.954-08:00Since we're discussing Plato here...
Re: Poli...Since we're discussing Plato here...<br /><br />Re: <i>Politics is part theater, part showbiz, it’s always been emotional...</i><br /><br />In other words, politics is the practical application of sophistry. Socrates, via Plato, criticized this aspect of "democracy" 1,500 years ago. Anyone interested in this might refer to the Socratic dialogues, especially the earlier ones, and the essays that often accompany them. One cannot absorb their contents and continue to take seriously anything a politician says, much less the common discourse of politicized people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-43510254365281097512018-12-14T11:21:43.627-08:002018-12-14T11:21:43.627-08:00The tyranny of the majority is overrun by the tyra...The tyranny of the majority is overrun by the tyranny of the Judge.<br /><br />"May has had exactly one job: to negotiate Brexit, Britain’s exit from the European Union. In that she has failed miserably, most likely because of her basic incompetence."<br />I suspect it is mostly due to her NOT wanting to exit the EU. And Peggy Noonan I have no trust in, nor belief that she might be reliable. <br /><br />Macron: Have you read https://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/ for on-scene reporting?<br /><br />"...Merkel. Her greatest contribution to her nation will be her absurd open arms policy, admitting far more Muslim migrants than the nation could assimilate, and thus launching a crime wave and a rape culture." That's in England, too.<br /><br />" Yes, I understand that Barack Obama once said that Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate ever to fun for the office of the presidency." FUN?????? The Flying Fickle Finger of Fate strikes AGAIN.<br /><br />"This shining 47-year-old intellectual..." OBJECTION, Your Honor! Supposition! I ask for EVIDENCE of that!<br /><br />Miss Peggy has made my morning!<br /><br />Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-38838220692250666422018-12-14T10:35:25.566-08:002018-12-14T10:35:25.566-08:00Actually, philosopher kings do not have a record o...Actually, philosopher kings do not have a record of accomplishment; they do not know the workings of the system. Plato elevated them because they see the big Ideas most clearly. Thus, rule by philosopher kings has no respect for experience... or for reality.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-65590646235481981632018-12-14T09:49:59.045-08:002018-12-14T09:49:59.045-08:00"sober judgment, serious accomplishment, deep..."sober judgment, serious accomplishment, deep knowledge and personal maturity are most important in our political leaders, because of the complexity of the problems we face"<br /><br />Philosopher-kings. Perfect. The fickle passions of welders and waitresses must be properly governed and regulated.<br /><br />Instead of offering learned disputations from the lofty aeries of the WSJ Opinion page, Noonan should be working for the Weekly Standard. Oh, wait...!<br />:-DDr. Irredeemable Dregnoreply@blogger.com