tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post5728977714885624957..comments2024-03-29T04:06:37.402-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: The Case of Phoebe PrinceStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-9004313737357015042012-07-19T00:19:55.540-07:002012-07-19T00:19:55.540-07:00Thank you for the post, really useful data.Thank you for the post, really useful data.sitehttp://csqx.sjtu.edu.cn/user/profile/7687.pagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-91287427664656551662011-05-17T06:32:55.807-07:002011-05-17T06:32:55.807-07:00summary now after legal cases closed?summary now after legal cases closed?DANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-51933818507186471162010-07-25T22:13:55.250-07:002010-07-25T22:13:55.250-07:00http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2010/07/open-letter-...http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2010/07/open-letter-to-american-poet-maya.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-229952140749014752010-07-25T07:42:16.978-07:002010-07-25T07:42:16.978-07:00Stuart
That Rashomon commenter was me. Dany Bloom ...Stuart<br />That Rashomon commenter was me. Dany Bloom in Taiwan. And will notice that Emily's first article about Phoebe way back in April in Slate followed the old media narrative and she only changed her mind and POV after I got through to her by phone and email and FB msgs to tell her of the smoking gun info I had in my hands, send to me by sources in S Hadley. Then she changed her mind and started digging deep. She came up with a great article that deserves a Pulitzer, INHO. She nailed it. nobody believed me when i said the same things on my blog zippy1300 and in comments even here back in April, YOU did not even believe me, but now the truth is out. I wonder what Maya Angelou's poem will say now, i hope she has time to revise it to reflec the truth.<br /><br />Danny Bloom, 1949-2032<br /><br />RE: "I have read Emily Bazelon's long article on Slate, and, as you say, it is excellent. YES IT IS....I recommend it to all who are interested in the case. YES. AND GUESS WHO TURNED HER? ME!<br /><br />Perhaps I overstated my opening paragraph, but we must keep in mind that these students are being criminally prosecuted. The court will eventually decide the facts in the case.<br /><br />Bazelon's account seems plausible, but it is another side, and not necessarily the absolute truth. IT IS THE ABSOLUTE GOD'S TRUTH, STUART. TRUST ME ON THIS.<br /><br />It feels, as one commenter said, like Rashomon. I AM THE ONE WHO SAID THAT.<br /><br />We do discover via Bazelon that Phoebe Prince was a very disturbed and vulnerable girl, IS AID THAT IN APRIL HERE AND ON MY BLOG AND SENT MY NEWS TIPS TO NY TIMES AND BOSTON GLOBE, THEY DID NOT REPORT. ONLY BRAVE EMILY WENT FOR THE KILL, ONCE SHE ASCERTAIEND I HAD THE SMOKING GUNS...who had been subjected to bullying in Ireland,AND SHE ATTEMPED SUICIDE THERE 8 TIMES ALSO, NOT REPORTED YET BECAUSE NOT CONFIRMED BUT I HAVE THAT TIP IN MY FILES SENT TO ME BY TEACHER FRIEND IN S HADLEY... and whose family had moved her to the States to help her to recover. YES. SIGH. AND THEN SHE GOT FURTHER INTO DRUGS AND PARTIES AT HER HOME AND ORAL SEX AND FULL SERVICE SEX. I BELEIVE SHE TRADED SEX FOR TALK, SEX FOR FRIENDSHIP, SEX FOR UNDERSTANDING. <br /><br />In Ireland Phoebe got into trouble with older girls for dating older boys. These girls gave her the silent treatment, which is surely akin to bullying.<br /><br />As we all suspected Phoebe cut herself, A LOT! ......was treated by psychiatrists, was prescribed PROZAC AND WORSE! medication, and ultimately committed SELF-suicide.<br /><br />Maybe we should ask about the effectiveness of some of the treatment she received and whether mere pills were sufficient. YES YES YES GOOD QUESTIONS SIR!<br /><br />Did Phoebe contribute to the bullying? It appears that she did.<br />SHE BROUGHT IT ON, BUT NOT ON PURPOSE AND SHE WAS NOT IN CONTROL. BUT YES SHE CONTRIBUTED TO THE BULLYING. SHE EGGED IT ON. MAYBE THIS WAS HER UNCONCIOUS MODUS OPERANDI? DOCTOR?.... Though she was fifteen years old, so I am inclined not to expect the most highly developed social skills. AND SHE WAS JUST 13, 14 WHEN SHE STARTED "DATING" OLDER BOYS, as in F_CK_NG!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-32584200302155903962010-07-25T06:58:47.527-07:002010-07-25T06:58:47.527-07:00I have read Emily Bazelon's long article on Sl...I have read Emily Bazelon's long article on Slate, and, as you say, it is excellent. I recommend it to all who are interested in the case.<br /><br />Perhaps I overstated my opening paragraph, but we must keep in mind that these students are being criminally prosecuted. The court will eventually decide the facts in the case.<br /><br />Bazelon's account seems plausible, but it is another side, and not necessarily the absolute truth.<br /><br />It feels, as one commenter said, like Rashomon.<br /><br />We do discover via Bazelon that Phoebe Prince was a very disturbed and vulnerable girl, who had been subjected to bullying in Ireland, and whose family had moved her to the States to help her to recover.<br /><br />In Ireland Phoebe got into trouble with older girls for dating older boys. These girls gave her the silent treatment, which is surely akin to bullying.<br /><br />As we all suspected Phoebe cut herself, was treated by psychiatrists, was prescribed medication, and ultimately committed suicide.<br /><br />Maybe we should ask about the effectiveness of some of the treatment she received and whether mere pills were sufficient.<br /><br />Did Phoebe contribute to the bullying? It appears that she did. Though she was fifteen years old, so I am inclined not to expect the most highly developed social skills.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-20016385443937437952010-07-24T21:34:19.144-07:002010-07-24T21:34:19.144-07:00Stewart,
Now that you have seen Emily Brazelon'...Stewart,<br />Now that you have seen Emily Brazelon's SLATE follow up on this, what is your POV now?<br /><br />RE:<br /><br />Clearly, South Hadley High School student Phoebe Prince was bullied to death. CLEARY? <br /><br />Just as clearly, those who were responsible, both the bullies who tormented her and the authorities that ignored her plight, should be subject to appropriate opprobrium.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-87015112258543744012010-04-28T21:27:08.585-07:002010-04-28T21:27:08.585-07:00taiwan77 said...
Stuart, news tip. Maya Angelou t...taiwan77 said... <br />Stuart, news tip. Maya Angelou the poet is now writing a national public poem about the Phoebe case, due out in the fall. google for more. true. -- dany bloom<br /><br />April 28, 2010 9:26 PMtaiwan77https://www.blogger.com/profile/03772680391560547991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-18265063982537310082010-04-27T08:55:33.549-07:002010-04-27T08:55:33.549-07:00Indeed... hence their vigilant defense of their re...Indeed... hence their vigilant defense of their reputation, such as it is. I have seen this often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-64082401386471096162010-04-27T06:45:42.155-07:002010-04-27T06:45:42.155-07:00Thanks, anonymous. I am intrigued by the idea that...Thanks, anonymous. I am intrigued by the idea that bullies have too much psychological capital. Could we say that theirs is in something like an asset bubble... wildly overbought... like a stock that has been bid up to values beyond any relation to reality... but whose owners are in constant fear lest someone call them out, challenge them, and show that their confidence is a sham.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-61970586940277198212010-04-26T21:07:41.234-07:002010-04-26T21:07:41.234-07:00Stuart suggests that bullies victimize those with ...Stuart suggests that bullies victimize those with more modest psychological capital. We’ve all heard about bullies being inherently insecure. But I’m curious about the possibility that many if not most bullies may have too much psychological capital.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-58508099858796197662010-04-26T21:06:31.013-07:002010-04-26T21:06:31.013-07:00dear anon above, o dan? he is eccentric meshagnauh...dear anon above, o dan? he is eccentric meshagnauh loose cannon off the wall totally fekarkt luftmensch and not to be trusted at all, ignore him. he is looney from the get go. but follow the news story, since.......drum roll...<br /><br />xxxxx, about the 8 earlier suicide attempts u told me about....a major major TOP reporter covering this story emails me today, and asks<br /><br />Hi Danny,<br /><br />About your FB message about Phoebe Prince -- do you think your friend who is a teacher in South Hadley would be willing to talk to me about the alleged 8 previous suicide attemtpts, off the record?<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />_____ ____ ______, from a major top reporter covering this case<br /><br />I told this reporter that my source might be able to talk to her anonymously without your name being used, and without your tel number being used, maybe call from public pay phone,....but that YOUR FRIEND who is the teacher probably CANNOT talk to media, for fear of job and word gettting out, but MAYBE, if is it really anonynmouys and on background and off the record, but i said it will be up to YOU and your friend to decide....i think this will be a big break if you can do it, but only do it IF you understand the the rules so be careful, do not get invovled unless you trust the angels to guide you....but the media is good here stillm this reporter ius a good WOMAN and she cares about PHOEBE first and foremost....but she open to truth too... --- DANNY, let me know ASAp..i can guide you to this reporter....DANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-46430595739731900962010-04-26T21:00:32.339-07:002010-04-26T21:00:32.339-07:00I'd love to get a diagnosis from Stuart about ...I'd love to get a diagnosis from Stuart about our new friend Dan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-54609266789544921882010-04-25T01:51:30.380-07:002010-04-25T01:51:30.380-07:00i am struck by YOUR lack of psychological capital ...i am struck by YOUR lack of psychological capital dr shrink! SMILE....don't follow the shallow media narrative, there is a deeper darker story here, but yes, the bullies must be punished sure. but start reading my blog to find the truth sir....danny bloom, 1949-2032, Tufts 1971<br /><br />email me SS at danbloom at GmailDANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-84547795608660411062010-04-25T01:49:53.406-07:002010-04-25T01:49:53.406-07:00Stuart for a smart guy you are pretty dumb here......Stuart for a smart guy you are pretty dumb here...<br /><br />PP was not bullied to death. she came to USA with 8 previous suicide attemots, but you did not knmow that. now you do,.<br /><br />but donal lynch and Emily bazelon got it all wrong, i am in touch with both of them nowm, bcauise they also did not know or chose not to report the truth: PP was damagwed good before she ever came to the USA. she was likely sexually abused in Ireland. guess who was likely the perp? DANNY<br /><br />re<br /><br /><br />re "Clearly, South Hadley High School student Phoebe Prince was bullied to death. Just as clearly, those who were responsible, both the bullies who tormented her and the authorities that ignored her plight, should be subject to appropriate opprobrium.<br /><br /><br />Now, as the story of Phoebe's last months and days is revealed in the press, other issues come to the fore. See articles by Donal Lynch in the Irish Independent, here and here, and Emily Bazelon's most recent essay in Slate. Link here.<br /><br /><br />It's one thing to be subjected to bullying. Another is not possessing the psychological resources necessary to deal with the situation. From reading about Phoebe Prince I am struck by her lack of what I would call psychological capital."DANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-50865063473312184502010-04-25T01:43:25.749-07:002010-04-25T01:43:25.749-07:00An open letter to American poet Maya Angelou: &quo...An open letter to American poet Maya Angelou: "You got the Phoebe Prince case wrong, dear!" <br /><br />Maya Angelou, one of American's most accomplished and moving poets, is one of those people who seems to be accomplished at everything she tries.<br /><br />Now, at 82, full of energy and inspiration, she's writing a poem about Phoebe Prince but it won't be read out loud in public or printed until next fall. <br /><br />IN HER OWN LIFE, as a little girl aged 8, Maya Angelou was raped by her mother's boyfriend, who was subsequently killed by her uncles. The event caused the young Maya to go mute for nearly 6 years, and her teens and early 20s were spent as a dancer, filled with isolation and ''experimentation''. At age 16 she gave birth to a son. So her poem about Phoebe will be informed by the experiences and insights of her own long life!<br /><br /><br /><br />Hopefully, Angelou will have time to learn that Phoebe is alleged to have attempted suicide 8 times in Ireland before ever coming to Massachusetts. <br /><br />And hopefully, some of Jennifer's letter below will make it into her poem as well. [see below]<br /><br /><br />In her efforts to be continue to be a force with her words and her constant calls for people to be better to one another, Angelou is working on a poem about Phoebe, the 15-year-old student at South Hadley High School who committed suicide in mid-January after an apparent barrage of bullying and harassment from nine other students.<br /><br />That's what she told Ray Routhier [rrouthier@pressherald.com] of the Maine Sunday Telegram newspaper in a recent Q and A sesssion with the reporter.<br /><br />"I'm at work now on a poem; it won't be finished for maybe six months. It's about [that] young [Irish girl][Phoebe] who committed suicide," Angelou told Routhier. ".....The brutality today is a pandemic, an epidemic of bullying, and cruelty..." <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />But Angelou should know the real story, and perhaps the Rashomon version of the Phoebe Prince story, too, before she publishes her poem. Thus this open letter. I hope you're reading this, Maya!<br /><br />"Phoebe Prince likely placed herself in high-risk situations", a sexual abuse survivor told this blog the other day. Maya Angelou should be aware of this, no?<br /><br />http://zippy1300.blogspot.com/2010/04/major-break-in-phoebe-prince-case.htmlDANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-45792497837899321162010-04-25T01:42:25.395-07:002010-04-25T01:42:25.395-07:00An open letter to American poet Maya ...An open letter to American poet Maya ...DANIELBLOOMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05130493903696077379noreply@blogger.com