tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post7700703534062088367..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: "It Was Like He Was Raised by Wolves"Stuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-5333569935764143902011-08-06T00:06:19.999-07:002011-08-06T00:06:19.999-07:00No doubt, the chap is totally fair.No doubt, the chap is totally fair.Недвижимость в испании купитьhttp://www.firstoasis.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-14176274829962792022010-06-18T14:47:54.055-07:002010-06-18T14:47:54.055-07:00I'm not sure the model of politics where you v...I'm not sure the model of politics where you vote for the guy who serves your own interests is sustainable.<br /><br />Ultimately, it leads to more outrageous lies by politicians as they try to serve a large enough body of people with conflicting interests to get elected. Which leads to a cynical electorate.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126782931" rel="nofollow">Here's a transcript of an interview</a> I heard on NPR with Senator Bennett, defeated by Tea Party activists. The interesting part, to my mind, I excerpt here:<br /><br /><i>NORRIS: You know, when people say you've been in Washington too long, it seems like you as an incumbent could point to buildings and bridges and other things that you've delivered for your state.<br /><br />Sen. BENNETT: Yeah, they hate that. <br /></i><br /><br />Some people are finally waking up that Governing is about principles, not just getting goodies.Jordan Hendersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06586821482992546930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-53714044809651454172010-06-18T11:25:38.973-07:002010-06-18T11:25:38.973-07:00Doc, politics is a very simple game. You support t...Doc, politics is a very simple game. You support those who serve your best interests. Tell me, if the Jews would support someone who vaguely promised "peace in the Middle East". I think we both know the answer to that one. And rightly so.<br /><br />To borrow a phrase from Obama himself, this is a teaching moment for Black Americans, one that has come at great cost, but which can prove quite insightful going forward. And again - this ain't just about Obama - it's about Black political leadership, accross the board. Again, please read my post that I linked to above, you'll see what I mean.<br /><br />O.Obsidiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-7031824638457501252010-06-18T09:58:13.809-07:002010-06-18T09:58:13.809-07:00Promises... I was thinking about Obama's promi...Promises... I was thinking about Obama's promise that the unemployment level would remain under 8% if Congress passed his stimulus.<br /><br />So I considered job creation to be a promise, though, if the issue is the promises he made to the black community, I would have to agree with you. I know of none.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-73606299162902209452010-06-18T08:24:32.319-07:002010-06-18T08:24:32.319-07:00Also, Doc,
Obama never had any such connection or ...Also, Doc,<br />Obama never had any such connection or tie to Black America. The proof? His only electoral loss in his career to date, at the hands of US Congressman and former Black Panther Bobby Rush in 2000. Study that history, and everything else will be illuminated.<br /><br />O.Obsidiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-18168258266299210142010-06-18T08:14:37.809-07:002010-06-18T08:14:37.809-07:00"Promise"?!? You can't be serious, D..."Promise"?!? You can't be serious, Doc. LOL. When did Obama EVER "promise" to address the concerns I raised in my post, or for that matter, the concerns you raised in your comments above? I'll patiently wait while you dig up the quotes.<br /><br />We know where he stood on everything BUT Black folks, and as we both agreed, he got virtually 100% support from them. Now, as I understand politics - and I worked two campaigns - when you support a politician, you do so with the tacit, often explicit, understanding that you got something in return for your support. Usually, that something was in line with something that was important to you. <br /><br />Black folk cannot say that, not just with Obama, but Black political leadership accross the board - again, please see my post that I linked to. And please note the utter lack of traffic activity since its posting on my blogsite. The silence is deafening, and it's for good reason. Because the truth, hurts. <br /><br />O.Obsidiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-81118993015583260632010-06-18T06:28:26.249-07:002010-06-18T06:28:26.249-07:00Thanks for your comments and questions, Obsidian.
...Thanks for your comments and questions, Obsidian.<br /><br />You raise a number of complex issues, so I will offer some thoughts on them.<br /><br />First, I would note a poll today that shows Obama losing the support of African Americans in New Jersey.<br /><br />Second, I think you make a very good point about Obama's dressing down of the black community-- in public, no less. I doubt that any other ethnic community would have been quite so tranquil about it. <br /><br />But perhaps the members of the black community recognized that they were not really the target audience, but that Obama was really trying to establish his bona fides with the white community by subtly separating himself from a black community that he has spent decades trying to cultivate.<br /><br />Third, I would imagine that whatever pride the African American community took in the election of the first black president will one day run up against the reality of: what has he done, and not just for the African-American community, but for the country.<br /><br />As for the African American community, I wonder how loyal it can continue to be when its youth have the highest unemployment rate of any group in the nation. I recall that African-American youth unemployment is now approaching 50%.<br /><br />Promising is one thing; delivering is quite another. And it doesn't look to me that Obama is really delivering for a community that gave him an extraordinary level of support in the election.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-24207396105443211812010-06-17T19:13:46.272-07:002010-06-17T19:13:46.272-07:00And a bit more:
"But, if now-President and t...And a bit more:<br /><br />"But, if now-President and then-candidate Obama’s dressing down of Black Men on Father’s Day is any indication, we can expect the full extent of said Black political leadership to be comprised of “tough love” speeches, coupled with other errata that has little if anything to do with Black Men’s lives. And if you think that is the correct course of action, consider the following: <br /><br />How do you think Jews would react to a political candidate who is asking for their vote, who “dressed them down” about how Israel was treating the Palestinians? <br /><br />How do you think the Gay/Lesbian community would react to a politician who was asking for their vote, who “dressed them down” wrt say, HIV/AIDS? <br /><br />How do you think Women would react to a political candidate who was asking for their vote, if he/she started out by excoriating them for making life for guys bad? <br /><br />We al know the answers to these questions. But since it’s Black Men though, is OK. <br /><br />And evidently, Black Men think it’s OK, too. <br /><br />Like I said, you get the political “leadership” you deserve. <br /><br />Suckas."<br /><br /> <br />http://theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/the-brothamans-dilemma/<br /><br />Would love to get your take on all this, Doc...<br /><br />O.Obsidiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-70011211338048988722010-06-17T19:12:09.748-07:002010-06-17T19:12:09.748-07:00Hi Doc,
Very interesting comments, and I've be...Hi Doc,<br />Very interesting comments, and I've been following your "series" for some time now. You might find the following commentary of my own to be of some interest:<br /><br />"It’s even true, it’s even especially true, with regard to our 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama. He got virtually 100% of the Black Vote-even Black MEN, like Armstrong Williams and Colin Powell, gave him their support-and what do Black Men have to show for it?<br /><br />If the stats are any indication, nothing.<br /><br />But wait Obsidian, the whole country’s going through a hard time right now, and besides, Obama’s not even halfway through his term, you may say. And you’d be right.<br /><br />But here’s the point-not only has Obama done nothing in return for overwhelming Black Man electoral support, *he doesn’t even address their concerns openly or otherwise*. Obama’s from the Chi-he knows the deal. Yet, to date, the ONLY time he’s addressed Black Men as a group, was to dress them down on Father’s Day back when he was a candidate. And, because as far as I know, no one else who’s Black and Male are raising these kinds of points, I must therefore conclude, that the bulk and mass of Black Male voters, are cool with all that.<br /><br />You get what you pay for…or in this case, vote for, I suppose."<br /><br /><br />http://theobsidianfiles.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/the-brothamans-dilemma/<br /><br />O.Obsidiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-20848090424159245122010-06-17T09:51:08.000-07:002010-06-17T09:51:08.000-07:00Good question... I think that we can fool ourselve...Good question... I think that we can fool ourselves into thinking we love someone when we merely lust after them. We can have strong feelings about a person and mistake them for signs of love. <br /><br />But I take your point about commitment. Since feelings are not always what they seem to be, it is, as you say, very important to choose carefully and deliberately what we commit to.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-43116408569247826602010-06-17T08:47:14.608-07:002010-06-17T08:47:14.608-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jordan Hendersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06586821482992546930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-3499555735711451742010-06-17T08:45:32.588-07:002010-06-17T08:45:32.588-07:00Finding out that we have misjudged someone's c...<i>Finding out that we have misjudged someone's character or misread our own feelings is painful indeed.</i><br /><br />What does it mean to have misread our own feelings? How can we later read them correctly? How do we gain the privileged position to suddenly see clearly what has happened in the past?<br /><br />In the end, there's "falling in love" and there's commitment. <br /><br />When we commit to a love, a program or even a politician, we commit to support those things until we find that impossible.<br /><br />That's why we should choose those things to which we commit very carefully.Jordan Hendersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06586821482992546930noreply@blogger.com