tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post1119819440800592484..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: Netanyahu's Moment; Obama's ShameStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-31705581828874883482015-03-05T00:45:57.385-08:002015-03-05T00:45:57.385-08:00I was curious how Minnesota's (libera;) Jewish...I was curious how Minnesota's (libera;) Jewish Senator Al Franken reacted.<br />http://www.minnpost.com/dc-dispatches/2015/03/why-three-minnesota-lawmakers-skipped-netanyahu-s-speech<br />-------------------<br />Franken said Monday he would skip the speech because he was worried it would be a “partisan spectacle,” and afterward he said he didn’t regret sitting it out.<br /><br />“In that chamber, things get to be a little bit of a theater,” he said. “The way it was done was too partisan for me, and I just felt uncomfortable being a part of a partisan spectacle.”<br /><br />Franken was one of about 10 senators to sit down with Netanyahu after the speech, and Franken said he asked him how he and the Obama administration, led by Secretary of State John Kerry, could have such divergent views on Iran.<br /><br />“He basically said they had different perspectives because America is in a safer neighborhood than Israel,” Franken said. “It wasn’t as responsive to my question as I would have liked, but that’s ok.”<br />-------------------Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-60743219349433542502015-03-04T23:21:52.766-08:002015-03-04T23:21:52.766-08:00This is an interesting take.
http://www.unz.com/i...This is an interesting take.<br /><br />http://www.unz.com/isteve/so-now-we-know-why-boehner-invited-netanyahu/<br /><br />"Republicans have outsourced patriotism to Israel."priss rulesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-21396846961831855962015-03-04T22:47:57.537-08:002015-03-04T22:47:57.537-08:00Strange that friedman can write about the same spe...Strange that friedman can write about the same speech without any talk of contempt and humiliation. Although it does imply the speech was political, and senselessly partisan.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/04/opinion/thomas-friedman-what-bibi-netanyahu-didnt-say.html<br />---------------<br />* Iran must be prevented from building a nuclear bomb, because it could be used to threaten the Jewish state and, once loaded onto a missile, Europe and the Arab states as well.<br />* I doubt there would have been the sanctions and negotiations we have today with Iran had Bibi not threatened to go full “Dr. Strangelove” on Tehran.<br />* Bibi argues that any deal should eliminate all of Iran’s centrifuges and related components that can enrich material for a bomb. I don’t begrudge him that wish. <br />* Netanyahu never made a convincing argument as to why walking away from Obama’s draft deal with Iran would result in either a better deal, more sanctions or an Iranian capitulation — and not a situation where Iran would continue to build toward a bomb and our only two choices would be to live with it or bomb it, with all the mess that could entail. <br />* The U.S. position — Given that Iran has already mastered the techniques to make a bomb and managed to import all the components to do so, despite sanctions, it is impossible to eliminate Iran’s bomb-making capabilities. What is possible is to demand that Iran roll back its enrichment and other technologies so that if Iran decided one day to make a bomb, it would take it a year — more than enough time for the U.S. and its allies to destroy it.<br />* Bibi’s message was that there is nothing more important than deterring Iran. O.K. But, if that were my top priority, would I engineer an invitation to speak to Congress by leveraging only the Republican Party and do it without even informing the president, who is running the Iran talks? And would I do it two weeks before Israeli elections, where it looks as though I am using the American Congress as a backdrop for a campaign ad, raising the question of whether my opposition to Iran is partly a political pose? <br />* Bibi is Churchill when it comes to isolating Iran, but he is AWOL when it comes to risking his own political future to make it happen. I have a problem with that. I still don’t know if I will support this Iran deal, but I also have a problem with my own Congress howling in support of a flawed foreign leader trying to scuttle the negotiations by my own government before they’re done. Rubs me the wrong way.<br />---------------Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-12827797496795158032015-03-04T22:23:04.733-08:002015-03-04T22:23:04.733-08:00Checking the recent numbers, perhaps we are indeed...Checking the recent numbers, perhaps we are indeed watching a historic shift of the Jewish voters to the right. Time will tell.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/jewish-voter-exit-polls_n_2084008.html<br />-------------<br />Exit polls indicate that President Barack Obama received 69 percent of the Jewish vote Tuesday. ... On what was otherwise a dismal night for Mitt Romney, Jewish Republicans boasted they had increased their market share compared to 2008, when American Jews gave Obama either 74 percent, according to one large voter sampling, or 78 percent, as is more broadly reported.<br /><br />... the fact remains that Obama, possibly the most unpopular Democrat among Jews since Jimmy Carter, won't be on the ballot in 2016, and whatever advantage Republicans enjoyed this time will be gone in the next election.<br />-------------<br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-64451657142822629032015-03-04T22:05:57.414-08:002015-03-04T22:05:57.414-08:00re: Such is the confidence of the Democratic party...re: Such is the confidence of the Democratic party in their ability to control Jewish voters—perhaps through witchcraft—that they believe that Jewish voters will continue to vote for them, no matter what.<br /><br />So this is an internal matter of the heart of Jewish voters? <br /><br />Some how the majority of Jewish Americans are center-to-left democrats, but the republicans are in support of a newcon Jewish leader, that a majority of American Jews would not vote for if they lived in Israel.<br /><br />So its just an election speech afterall, but an important one, if the survival of Israel as a nation depends on the people of Israel making the "right" decision.<br /><br />http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/02/world/middleeast/netanyahus-speech-opens-political-divisions-in-israel-too.html<br />-------<br />It is also taking place in the highly charged period before Israel’s March 17 elections and has spawned an increasingly fraught debate in Israel about the potential benefits versus the risk of damaging to the crucial Israeli-American relationship.<br />-------Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-27852300517319364972015-03-04T22:00:53.044-08:002015-03-04T22:00:53.044-08:00So to summarize Obama we have: ineptitude, contemp...So to summarize Obama we have: ineptitude, contempt, oozing contempt and hostility, humiliate(d), grotesque rudeness, looked very bad, looked weak, humiliated, incompetent poser, worst American presidents, despise(d)<br /><br />I wonder who you are trying to convince. The only people who will read this and agree are people who already agree.<br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-78067884016945276722015-03-04T20:35:50.846-08:002015-03-04T20:35:50.846-08:00This is a beautiful assessment of a brilliant spee...This is a beautiful assessment of a brilliant speech by a real leader who defines himself in clear, easy-to-understand terms. <br /><br />Liberal politicos like Pelosi and little dirt bags like Jon Stewart (who had the tackiest, most disgusting sound byte of all) wouldn't know anything about principled leadership and taking a strong stand that it requires.<br /><br />Netanyahu is the man of the hour, the day and the decade in my book. Our regressed society needs many more like him. Webutantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02139954791621532194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-31451916345873489922015-03-04T13:47:01.989-08:002015-03-04T13:47:01.989-08:00Name me one Middle Eastern leader who has been vil...Name me one Middle Eastern leader who has been vilified by Obama as much as Netanyahu.<br /><br />When Obama chose not to intervene in the uprising in Iran in 2009, that was quite a large gesture of support.<br /><br />When Obama discarded Mubarak in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, that too was a strong gesture of support.Stuart Schneidermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-13483026698498256212015-03-04T11:14:45.778-08:002015-03-04T11:14:45.778-08:00I see you trying to make a case that Obama is nice...I see you trying to make a case that Obama is nicer to to enemies than Israel because, it's a slim one because, in fact, the USA supports Israel way more than it supports the other guys.<br /><br />Recruiting Animalhttp://recruitinganimal.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-24403630292096624362015-03-04T10:17:00.345-08:002015-03-04T10:17:00.345-08:00He hates us; he really, really hates us.
That&#...He hates us; he really, really hates us. <br /><br />That's why,Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-55026122526927156582015-03-04T08:02:48.053-08:002015-03-04T08:02:48.053-08:00"The Saudi government is very unlikely to emb..."The Saudi government is very unlikely to embrace the Israeli prime minister openly, but columns like the one I quoted must at least receive the tacit approval of the authorities in that country."<br /><br />is that not called something like plausible denial? <br /><br />Everyone knows that this column was written at the behest of the Saudi leadership. Everyone knows that they have no free press. Yet what can the administration do? The Saudi's will just say, "hey, it is one man's opinion Mr. President. Free press ya know. We don't agree with him at all (snicker-snicker)."<br /><br />I understand the obama is on a different path then most Americans. That obama believes that all the problems in the world are from bad American policy from the past. But I cannot believe that obama is so naïve, that obama cannot see that his policies are driving the world to war. <br /><br />So the question becomes, why? Leo Gnoreply@blogger.com