tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post1536009625261044136..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: The Price of Everything; The Value of NothingStuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-19382756051580726422018-10-23T00:55:45.920-07:002018-10-23T00:55:45.920-07:00Eating versus throwing up.
Craftsmanship is trans...Eating versus throwing up.<br /><br />Craftsmanship is transactional. Outsider art in its purest form is involuntary. <br /><br />If a craftsman of fine art were enslaved by a wealthy patron and then forced to produce art commissioned by the patron-tyrant, would the core nature of that art being produced still be transactional? <br /><br />The patron demands an aesthetic goal be met by the craftsman. The crafstman still has freedom to create the art in a way that seems to meet the patron's demands and expectations and perhaps the end product is convincing enough to meet those external demands.<br /><br />In its most extreme form, Outsider art truly is an involuntary process, there is no free will, unlike in the craftsman-enslavement scenario. The craftsman can still refuse to produce the requested art and suffer extreme penalties for disobedience or commit suicide to escape the scenario altogether. <br /><br />For extremist Outsider art, the pathological obsession of the 'artist' is to re-create the aesthetic image infecting the mind and manifest the curse into the physical world as a futile attempt to purge it.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-20218437534970398632018-10-22T21:13:26.162-07:002018-10-22T21:13:26.162-07:00I'm certainly glad to avoid that strange world...I'm certainly glad to avoid that strange world. I don't know if the love of money is the root of all evil, but it does make sense that it is corrupting. It would be fun to meet an artist who could sell one 50 hour painting for $1 million dollars, and then sell 100 more 50 hour paintings he really wanted to paint and sell them all for $1000 each because he no longer needed the money, but status generally doesn't work that way. It's hard to go back without insulting your vanity.<br /><br />I read Leon Lederman sold his Nobel Prize medal for $765,000 to pay medical bills, but I imagined it wasn't exactly like that. Rather it was a matter of pride, so the payment was an act of charity, and accepting the medal in return was a way for him to believe it was not charity. <br />https://www.vox.com/health-care/2018/10/4/17936626/leon-lederman-nobel-prize-medical-bills<br /><br />And a part of me might hope large payments to artists work the same way, as long as they use their newly found financial independence to make the art they really want to make, rather raising their decadence in drugs and fake friends and needing to continue catering to the bad tastes of people with too much money to keep up their habits.<br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-15663137951557831212018-10-22T19:55:20.879-07:002018-10-22T19:55:20.879-07:00It was an interesting article to read, as an examp...It was an interesting article to read, as an example I suggest. My therapist advised me to encourage others in their paths towards wellness, in short. become the monkey.<br /><br />watch?v=L0pMXGwHAxYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-82443297476598275172018-10-22T19:18:18.140-07:002018-10-22T19:18:18.140-07:00Meat is inherently repulsive. I wish there were a ...Meat is inherently repulsive. I wish there were a better name or concept for it rather than just 'meat'.<br /><br />A monkey whose mental state is completely severed/disembodied from any autobiographical recollection suddenly finds itself in a pitch black chasm. The monkey wanders aimlessly in each direction for hours on end without encountering any discernible boundaries. <br /><br />This monkey has a battery powered soldering iron it miraculously understands enough to operate in a rudimentary fashion. Unfortunately, this tool still remains useless to the monkey as the chamber itself contains no combustible fuel to create a fire to light the seemingly endless cavern.<br /><br />That is pretty much all that is needed to know to infer the remainder of the story, the nature of what follows next should be fairly obvious.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-35655537451906803832018-10-22T16:12:26.041-07:002018-10-22T16:12:26.041-07:00Anon at 1:44: What he said. Whatever he meant. ...Anon at 1:44: What he said. Whatever he meant. Aces, deuces, and Three-Eyed Monty.<br /><br />How could I write that and be a robot? Null set.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-63256218495455674742018-10-22T14:49:23.020-07:002018-10-22T14:49:23.020-07:00For the Outsider whose medium happens to be meat, ...<br />For the Outsider whose medium happens to be meat, the Outsider can never fully overcome the inherent limitations built into the medium. Meat is beautifully obtuse. The essence of Meat does not masquerade as anything other than having a trash bin destiny.<br /><br />Trash bin art genre examples; Thomas Kinkade and Alex Grey, and other such 'visionary art' being fairly commonplace self infatuation, gimmickry disguised as shoddy works of art. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-78395334439010144422018-10-22T14:20:20.227-07:002018-10-22T14:20:20.227-07:00Banksy.
'Nuff said.Banksy.<br /><br />'Nuff said.Dr. Irredeemable Dregnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-73486904844938683032018-10-22T13:44:28.817-07:002018-10-22T13:44:28.817-07:00 Comfort is key, and enjoying it all year long is ... Comfort is key, and enjoying it all year long is essential. In verso<br /><br />Clicking not a robot feels like murder every timeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-43874788787574920612018-10-22T13:16:51.722-07:002018-10-22T13:16:51.722-07:00This is not a discussion of artistic skill.
Outsi...This is not a discussion of artistic skill.<br /><br />Outsider art is a strange animal. Sometimes there is *no work of art left to buy trade or sell* after the fact, especially when the outsider artist himself uses rapidly biodegradable medium such as meat, in this case being Ricardo López. Ironically it was the character and (lack of) ability flaws of Ricardo López that made his actions turn into art rather than being acts of pointless terror (as you often see in stupid senseless terror acts such as school shootings and Dahmer-esque cannibalistic serial killers - who are not accidental artists but rather murderers). <br /><br />There is a fine line between meat and art.<br /><br />Ricardo had true meatlike intentions therefore his impossible aesthetic aim remained realizable in the other dimension, but his lack of IRL agency/mental ability allowed his malicious intents to never manifest fully in reality (thankfully), instead He became a tragically weird Outsider artist's form of 'Reality art'. The only IRL victim was himself being consumed by his own wildly misguided aesthetic drives and impulses - a true artist at the core. <br /><br />Meat is a strange medium. Meat is inherently a repulsive glob of matter, especially when disembodied and the location is way off (like waking up with a raw chicken as your pillow), but when meat's repulsiveness as if by magical brute force transforms by an act of excessive transcendent will into a transiently uncanny indescribable thing that escapes any accurate means of definition.<br /><br />I am not meat obsessed, but have noticed that the meat medium excels at exposing this thing in particular. I wish there were a better name for it than meat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-40787937036277767722018-10-22T12:46:06.935-07:002018-10-22T12:46:06.935-07:00"One does well to remember that artists are n..."One does well to remember that artists are not intellectuals" a rather broad generalization, even if the stereotype is often true. <br /><br />Often this is what makes Outsider art so fascinating. These Outsider artists couldn't give a damn about what the rich will pay them for their work, what their peers think of their work or even if others will ever observe their art. There are no impositions or impediments in the way to cripple where these artists aesthetic visions go. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-85203892693603364372018-10-22T08:47:23.085-07:002018-10-22T08:47:23.085-07:00I don't know about "art", but I know...I don't know about "art", but I know I don't have enough money to care about it. You can call me a philestine; I don't care about that, either.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.com