tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post711689702342528858..comments2024-03-26T06:17:49.527-07:00Comments on Had Enough Therapy?: Ready for Hillary's Empathy?Stuart Schneidermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12784043736879991769noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-55947469945013617792014-12-08T13:13:41.020-08:002014-12-08T13:13:41.020-08:00p.s. Maybe Hillary's empathy means we should f...p.s. Maybe Hillary's empathy means we should fire bad cops AFTER we understand their point of view that says they can get away with murder?<br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/12/06/i-was-a-st-louis-cop-my-peers-were-racist-and-violent-and-theres-only-one-fix/<br />-------------<br />Unfortunately, I don’t think better training alone will reduce police brutality. My fellow officers and I took plenty of classes on racial sensitivity and on limiting the use of force. <br /><br /><br />The problem is that cops aren’t held accountable for their actions, and they know it. These officers violate rights with impunity. They know there’s a different criminal justice system for civilians and police.<br /><br />Even when officers get caught, they know they’ll be investigated by their friends, and put on paid leave. My colleagues would laughingly refer to this as a free vacation. It isn’t a punishment. And excessive force is almost always deemed acceptable in our courts and among our grand juries. Prosecutors are tight with law enforcement, and share the same values and ideas.<br /><br />We could start to change that by mandating that a special prosecutor be appointed to try excessive force cases. And we need more independent oversight, with teeth. I have little confidence in internal investigations.<br /><br />The number of people in uniform who will knowingly and maliciously violate your human rights is huge. At the Ferguson protests, people are chanting, “The whole damn system is guilty as hell.” I agree, and we have a lot of work to do.<br />-------------Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-34301708190896530512014-12-08T12:06:57.677-08:002014-12-08T12:06:57.677-08:00People can sure write a lot from one short quote. ...People can sure write a lot from one short quote. What does she say?<br />"...Trying to understand, in so far as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of view."<br /><br />Besides being vague without specific examples, the word "perspective" would seem to imply "cognitive empathy" rather than the feeling sort.<br /> <br />And Goleman talks about this:<br />http://www.danielgoleman.info/three-kinds-of-empathy-cognitive-emotional-compassionate/<br />-------------<br />The first is “cognitive empathy,” simply knowing how the other person feels and what they might be thinking. Sometimes called perspective-taking, this kind of empathy can help in, say, a negotiation or in motivating people. A study at the University of Birmingham found, for example, that managers who are good at perspective-taking were able to move workers to give their best efforts.<br /><br />But there can be a dark side to this sort of empathy – in fact, those who fall within the “Dark Triad” – narcissists, Machiavellians, and sociopaths – can be talented in this regard, while having no sympathy whatever for their victims. As Paul told me, a torturer needs this ability, if only to better calibrate his cruelty – and talented political operatives no doubt have this ability in abundance.<br />-------------<br /><br />When someone takes hostages, you don't send in Rambo, or at least not until you trick the hostage taker to surrender the women and children to show his good faith.<br /><br />But whatever she means in detail, and I'm sure she means more than to use her "enemies" POV to manipulate them, it seem more like common sense.<br /><br />Maybe you're right, and humilation is the cure for disempowering your enemies, but it seems to me that only works if the final state is to provoke them into stupidity so you can shoot them dead. <br /><br />If you have any other goals besides imprisoning for life or killing all your enemies, I'm sure you have to be smarter.<br /><br /><br />Ares Olympushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09726811306826601686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8078379512095504946.post-14297754096597807892014-12-08T10:38:08.624-08:002014-12-08T10:38:08.624-08:00Well, if I thought she might have any empathy for ...Well, if I thought she might have any empathy for ME, I'd have to do some considerable work to get ready for it. I'm thinking a hidey-hole deep in the woods with guns and ammo.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.com