The controversy—if we may call it that—over Phil Robertson’s
views on homosexuality has drawn attention to the workings of the marketplace
of ideas.
In particular, everyone is now debating what it is and is
not permissible speech, in polite conversation and in public.
Most people agree that the Robertson family does not have a constitutional
right to have a television show. The A & E network does have a right to suspend
one of the show’s cast members.
And yet, the issue does not really seem to be about whether
or not Congress may make a law abridging freedom of speech. It’s not about
government intruding in the marketplace but about special interest groups
shutting down certain ideas by shunning those who articulate them. Or better,
by attacking those who advertise on such shows.
Many gays have no problem with the Duck Dynasty having a
television show or with Phil Robertson being on it. Camille Paglia has
denounced the effort to repress speech and Andrew Sullivan does not believe that the patriarch of the “dynasty” should be suspended for speaking in
character.
For his part Sullivan preferred to engage a debate over what
he called “fundamentalist” views of homosexuality. Which is the right way to do
it.
His discussion would have been more persuasive if he had not
said this:
This is
a fascinating glimpse into the fundamentalist mind. You’ll notice that, for the
fundamentalist, all sin – when it comes down to it - starts with sex.
This sexual obsession, as the Pope has rightly diagnosed it, is a mark of
neurotic fundamentalism in Islam and Judaism as well as Christianity. And if
all sin is rooted in sex, then the homosexual becomes the most depraved and
evil individual in the cosmos. So you get this classic statement about sin:
“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there.”
In truth, the notion that original sin, as theologians call
it, has something to do with sexual lust dates to Saint Augustine. You do not
get too much more mainstream than Augustine. One is shocked to discover that Sullivan does
not know this.
Obviously, the Bishop of Hippo was not referring to
homosexuality, per se. He was referring to all non-procreative sexual
activities.
It is true that homosexuality is called an “abomination” in the book
of Leviticus, but that book also says that adulterers should be stoned to
death.
In today's Judeo-Christian world even those who disapprove of homosexuality do not believe that anyone should be persecuted or punished for it. Many of the same people disapprove of adultery but they do not believe that adulterers should be stoned to death. Yet, in some modern religions that
homosexuality is taken to be a capital crime and adulterer are stoned to death. It would be good for an astute observer like Sullivan to make these basic distinctions.
One has serious doubts about whether, for anyone outside of certain
not-to-be-named cultures, “the homosexual becomes the most depraved and evil
individual in the cosmos.” Flights of rhetorical hyperbole do not an argument
make.
Were we to consult with Dante and ask who occupies the
lowest circle of Hell—surely such people would be good candidates for being the
most depraved and evil individuals in the cosmos—the answer is, as you know,
Judas, Brutus and Cassius… those who betrayed God and Caesar.
Clearly, homosexuals have been persecuted and brutalized for
their sexual orientation, but the worst eliminationist rhetoric and genocidal
manias have been directed against, for example, Jews and Armenians. And let’s
not forget the abomination of slavery.
Besides, reason requires that we distinguish between what
Phil Robertson said and hanging a gay man in public in downtown Tehran.
One understands that, for Sullivan, not being allowed to marry
the person you love is an unspeakable act of persecution, but I cannot bring
myself to equate that indignity to crematory ovens or enslavement.
For most of human history the vast majority of human beings
were not really allowed to marry the person they loved. It is only recently
that marriage became associated with love, but to call the marital institution
a universal expression of romantic love is to profess complete ignorance of the practice of marriage.
Unfortunately, those who want to shut down all hate speech
do not make the distinction. They believe that some language is so vile, so hurtful and so
injurious that the government must regulate it. They believe that the government should regulate the
hate speech that involves affixing demeaning labels to groups of people.
One is forced to know that these same people believe that all markets should be strictly regulated.
Peter Berkowitz summarizes Professor Jeremy
Waldron's analysis:
A
professor at New York University School of Law, and the Chichele Professor of
Social and Political Theory at All Souls College, University of Oxford, Waldron
believes that American professors of constitutional law often fail to grasp the
seriousness of the harms caused by hate speech and the justification,
consistent with the requirements of a free society, for barring it. Waldron is
at his best in examining the pain, the humiliation, and the obstacles to the
full enjoyment of the rights and pleasures of citizenship arising from speech
that targets a group and ascribes to all members wicked or monstrous qualities.
But typifying much progressive thought, Waldron overlooks the critical question
of the competence of legislators, executive branch officials, and judges to
police the content of speech while preserving liberty of thought and
discussion.
While Waldron understands the harm that hate speech can inflict,
he fails to address the question of what does and does not count as hate
speech. And, he does not explain who is to decide what does or does not fall
within the category.
Berkowitz continues:
Waldron
… is not in favor of restricting speech
that merely causes offense. "The issue is publication and the harm done to
individuals and groups through the disfiguring of our social environment by
visible, public, and semi-permanent announcements to the effect that in the
opinion of one group in the community, perhaps the majority, members of another
group are not worthy of equal citizenship." It does not seem to occur to
Waldron that authorizing the government to determine what counts as the
"disfiguring of our social environment" effectively gives the state
limitless power to endorse speech it likes and suppress speech it dislikes.
Berkowitz is correct here. I am not sure what Waldren means
by “disfiguring our social environment.” I don’t believe that the social
environment would have standing to bring a suit or to prosecute anyone. In
truth, its about attacking and trying to disfigure certain groups of people. Are
the aggrieved parties to decide what has or has not abridged their rights? Does
GLAAD speak for all homosexuals? Should the question be decided with class action suits? If so, how much of the determination will be
based on personal sensitivity.
One person many might be grievously harmed by words that another
might easily laugh off.
The difficulty, as I see it lies, in taking laws that have
been written to protect individuals and applying them to groups. In particular,
to groups that might not even call themselves groups.
When Phil Robertson lumped together adultery and bestiality,
should he have been attacked by an adultery advocacy grouip for having defamed
them and prevented them from enjoying their constitutional rights?
If we accept that certain derisive slurs are hurtful, is it also hateful to describe, as Robertson did, certain sexual activities with
non-vulgar and non-obscene terms?
If Robertson’s language constitutes a firing offense because
it damages the reputations of certain groups of people, should those who have
been attacking his reputation be sued for defaming his reputation?
The first amendment protects unpopular speech. Robertson's isn't even unpopular. Preachers and Popes are always warning about sin and describing it to their flocks. It may not be what people want to hear, but they can use that information however they choose.
ReplyDeleteWe do not teach in the rhetorical model; Public education replaced church based. we do not debate in public; we tweet and use a few second sound bites. It takes more time and introspection to tackle large topics that historic great thinkers spent lifetimes studying than we give respect to today.
The current Pope may believe he was defusing the cultural battle, that the economic one was the true evil in the world, but I think he was wrong in not focusing on the eternal instead of the temporal. The economy of every economic system has ups and downs.
Anus and vagina are not the vulgar forms of anatomical terms. They are more medical and formal. I suspect it is anus that makes people flinch. The vulgar words are used more in public discussion.
During Obama's administration, the creep of government into private life has been huge. We are supposed to talk about government health care over our holidays. I will argue that the blurring of public/private does not make this a clear case of Robertson not having first amendment rights in this case. The group that got after A&E is a political lobbying group that uses its resources to help make law.
I trust you will understand if I don't accept Sullivan's statements/comments/arguments.
ReplyDeleteOriginal sin was loss of faith (i.e. trust).
ReplyDeleteAs for the Torah, since the fall of Israel, it no longer governs secular affairs. It remains a record of God's philosophy and historical accounts. It's wisdom still provides guidance, but cannot be followed verbatim in a fallen world. We wanted emancipation and we got it, along with the challenges which it entails.
That said, dysfunctional behaviors, including homosexual, elective abortion, adultery, etc., can be judged by the fitness they engender or deprive. It is a society's responsibility to properly classify behaviors for normalization, tolerance, and rejection, and it is our burden to enforce the constructed moral philosophy.
Homosexual behavior when practiced by a minority can be tolerated, but there is no legitimate cause to normalize it. Elective abortion is the denial of our inalienable right to life and it must be rejected. Adultery is in the same class as original sin and enjoys similar consequences.
I am paraphrasing here. Have you ever notice that for the Left, mostly, freedom of speech is like a streetcar. When they come to their stop they get off? That seems to be the "modus operandi" of the Left on almost ever issue they get involved. Everything is acceptable until they have the power then the very concepts they held dear no longer apply?
ReplyDeleteOne wonders that the gay lobby thinks that what was stated which was a description of part of homosexuality was vulgar. This seems to be a strange "position" to take.
One of the most important freedoms we have is free speech and the ability to state what we believe, emphasis on believe. Once it is in the marketplace of ideas it can be challenged and discussed. Forcing ideas underground creates an unseen army of adherents that will grow unimpeded.
One of the worse concept going is the idea of "hate speech." Who decides what is "hate speech?" Those who live by the concept of "hate speech" will surely die by "hate speech." How long does one suppose that most on the Left would survive "hate speech" laws?
It should not surprise anyone that when a group of people no longer believe they have the intellectual capacity to provide a well reason argumentation for the ideas they espouse that STFU way of dealing with that lack becomes extant.
The backlash that GLAAD is getting should have been foreseeable. One has to know when not to jump the shark. Cracker Barrel, whose action were mild by comparison, is being told in no uncertain language that the need to rethink their decision. Sadly, here a little moral persuasion would have gone a long way to ameliorating and creating a better understanding as well.
Hate speech is anything that offends somebody who is an officially recognized victim group, or a liberal taking offense for them. Mostly the latter.
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