William Deresiewicz has a point. The Ivy League is probably
overrated. Parents who agonize about sending their children to the Ivies are
ignoring the fact that better, and probably less expensive educational
opportunities exist at many state schools.
And yet, since Deresiewicz himself was denied tenure at
Yale, one suspects that he might not have warm feelings toward an institution
that refused to grant him a lifetime appointment.
Since he is going to argue for more diversity on campus, it
is worth noting that Deresiewicz’s being a white male probably did not help his
cause.
Either way, his New Republic essay is a thoughtful long form
piece that people will be reading through, mulling over and talking about. Why
not start the ball rolling.
Deresiewicz focuses primarily on the students who attend Ivy
League institutions. These children have worked long and hard to get where they
are. Apparently, they accept the notion that they are destined to rule the
world, and thereby have become what he calls “entitled little shits” who lack a
soul or a self.
He doesn’t quite say it, but Deresiewicz is implying that
today’s college students are little Fausts who have sold their souls for
material advancement and societal power.
Brimming with contempt for these students, he does not
bother to examine the quality of education that is offered, for example, in Ivy
League Humanities departments.
Surely, in Ivy League schools the Humanities are hotbeds of
political correctness. One understands that children exposed to such
indoctrination would exit college with their minds and their values somewhat askew.
When Deresiewicz suggests that Humanities courses fail to
teach students how to think, he makes a good point. The fault, however, does not lie with the
students or their parents. It lies with leftist faculty members. Given that
they have hollowed out the educational experience, students are now gravitating
to STEM subjects and learning how to
socialize with their fellow future world leaders.
The mindlessness of the academy has often been documented.
One does not feel quite right trashing leftist professors who cannot, truth be
told, defend themselves in the arena of ideas.
Nevertheless, the following remarks by Christina Hoff
Sommers offer a sense of what students in Ivy League schools are taught:
The
Millennials have been cheated out of a serious education by their Baby Boomer
teachers. Call it a generational swindle. Even the best and brightest among the
20-somethings have been shortchanged. Instead of great books, they wasted a lot
of time with third-rate political tracts and courses with titles like
"Women Writers of the Oklahoma Panhandle." Instead of spending their
college years debating and challenging received ideas, they had to cope with
speech codes and identity politics. College educated young women in the U.S.
are arguably the most fortunate people in history; yet many of them have drunk
deeply from the gender feminist Kool-Aid. Girls at Yale, Haverford and
Swarthmore see themselves as oppressed. That is madness. And madness can only
last so long.
If, as has been noted here and elsewhere, students no longer
read the great books, no longer grapple with the canon, they are going to end
up not knowing very much. They are certainly not going to learn how to think.
But this is not the point that Deresiewicz wants to make.
Given that his background is in literature he offers a sociological argument.
By his lights students are suffering from a lack of true diversity:
In his words:
Visit
any elite campus across our great nation, and you can thrill to the
heart-warming spectacle of the children of white businesspeople and
professionals studying and playing alongside the children of black, Asian, and
Latino businesspeople and professionals. Kids at schools like Stanford think
that their environment is diverse if one comes from Missouri and another from
Pakistan, or if one plays the cello and the other lacrosse. Never mind that all
of their parents are doctors or bankers.
That
doesn’t mean there aren’t a few exceptions, but that is all they are. In fact,
the group that is most disadvantaged by our current admissions policies are
working-class and rural whites, who are hardly present on selective campuses at
all. The only way to think these places are diverse is if that’s all you’ve
ever seen.
Let’s
not kid ourselves: The college admissions game is not primarily about the lower
and middle classes seeking to rise, or even about the upper-middle class
attempting to maintain its position. It is about determining the exact
hierarchy of status within the upper-middle class itself. In the affluent
suburbs and well-heeled urban enclaves where this game is principally played,
it is not about whether you go to an elite school. It’s about which one you go
to. It is Penn versus Tufts, not Penn versus Penn State. It doesn’t matter that
a bright young person can go to Ohio State, become a doctor, settle in Dayton,
and make a very good living. Such an outcome is simply too horrible to contemplate.
This
system is exacerbating inequality, retarding social mobility, perpetuating
privilege, and creating an elite that is isolated from the society that it’s
supposed to lead. The numbers are undeniable. In 1985, 46 percent of incoming
freshmen at the 250 most selective colleges came from the top quarter of the
income distribution. By 2000, it was 55 percent. As of 2006, only about 15
percent of students at the most competitive schools came from the bottom half.
The more prestigious the school, the more unequal its student body is apt to
be. And public institutions are not much better than private ones. As of 2004,
40 percent of first-year students at the most selective state campuses came
from families with incomes of more than $100,000, up from 32 percent just five
years earlier.
Children who excel at the college admissions process
invariably, Deresiewicz tells us, have been coddled. Their parents have the
extra income to hire tutors and coaches… the better to prepare them for the Ivy
League. This implies that if only poor children had more money and more college
prep courses, they too would be getting perfect scores on their SATs.
In his words:
Wealthy
families start buying their children’s way into elite colleges almost from the
moment they are born: music lessons, sports equipment, foreign travel
(“enrichment” programs, to use the all-too-perfect term)—most important, of
course, private-school tuition or the costs of living in a place with top-tier
public schools. The SAT is supposed to measure aptitude, but what it actually
measures is parental income, which it tracks quite closely. Today, fewer than
half of high-scoring students from low-income families even enroll at four-year schools.
One cannot help but be struck by the fact that this
sociological analysis offers no recognition of the achievements and the
presence of Asian students at the Ivy League. Many of them, of course, avoid
Humanities courses and stick with science and math. But many of them did not
grow up rich. They studied hard, they took prep courses, but these were not at
a crushing expense.
Surely, one of the reasons for admitting candidates on other
than academic grounds is to keep the Ivies from becoming predominantly Asian.
You might want to denounce them as automatons, for lacking
well-roundedness… but still, what could possibly justify Deresiewicz’s failure
to take account of their influence and presence.
In a recent article in City
Journal Dennis Saffran looked at a similar issue through New
York City’s most prestigious high schools. Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech and
Stuyvesant High admit students on the basis of a standardized text. This makes
them purely meritocratic. As it happens, Asian students far outperform white
and minority children on the test and thus gain most of the places at those schools.
Naturally, New York’s leftist mayor de Blasio
believes that this is evidence of discrimination. Thus, he wants to be able to
add diversity criteria to the test scores, the better to mitigate the unfair
advantage that “rich” Asian students have.
The problem is: the Asian students who ace these tests do
not come from wealthy families. The new criteria would mainly advantage wealthy white children. Saffran writes:
Asians
in New York are overwhelmingly first- and second-generation; some
three-quarters of the students at Stuyvesant are immigrants or the children of
immigrants. They’re hardly affluent, notwithstanding de Blasio’s implication
that families who get their kids into the specialized schools are “rich.” True,
Asians nationally have the highest median income of any racial group, including
whites—and in New York City, their median household income ranks second to that
of whites and well ahead of blacks and Hispanics. But Asians also have the
highest poverty rate of any racial group in New York, with 29 percent living
below the poverty level, compared with 26 percent of Hispanics, 23 percent of
blacks, and 14 percent of whites. Poor Asians lag far behind whites and are
barely ahead of blacks and Latinos. Thus, the income spectrum among Asians in
New York ranges from a surprisingly large number in poverty, through a
hardworking lower middle class, and on to a more affluent upper middle class.
It
might seem reasonable to assume—as de Blasio and others apparently do—that the
Asian kids at the specialized schools come largely from families at the top of
this pyramid. But this isn’t the case. Half the students at the specialized
high schools qualify for free or subsidized school lunches, including 47
percent at Stuyvesant and 48 percent at Bronx Science—figures that have
increased correspondingly with Asians’ rising numbers at these schools. Based
upon these figures, Stuyvesant and Bronx Science (as well as four of the other
six specialized schools) are eligible for federal Title I funding, given to
schools with large numbers of low-income students. Think about that: two public
high schools that, along with half their students, are officially classified as
poor by the federal government rival the most exclusive prep schools in the world.
The
poor students get into such schools through hard work and sacrifice—both their
own and that of their parents. The students typically attend local tutoring
programs, which proliferate in Asian neighborhoods, starting the summer after
sixth grade and for several days a week, including weekends, during the school
year prior to the test. The costs are burdensome for poor and working families,
but it’s a matter of priorities.
For applicants to the best American universities today,
Asian students are the competition. Foresighted parents know this and have been introducing the cultural ethos of the
Tiger Mom.
Perhaps such children are not as well rounded as their peers
who spend their time on play dates and bacchanalian festivities. And yet, when
you ask how these children are doing in the world, how well they do in business
and finance one need but look to Silicon Valley to see their success. Somehow or other, these high tech companies have succeeded while not having very much diversity.
Whether or not students in Shanghai or Singapore can have a
conversation with a plumber—a Deresiewicz criterion—they are doing just fine
overall.
We are not going to compete with them by offering withering
critiques of their soullessness.
Stuart, being a plumber, working in the highest median wage area in my country, I can categorically state that the rich Asians, not only can converse with me, but most times are the most polite and trusting of my abilities, of any of my customers.
ReplyDeleteSince I work for a major multinational with operations in both Shanghai and Singapore (that I work with on a regular basis), let me say that for all the chattering class hand-wringing, non-Ivy American STEM graduates are holding their own just fine. Its our 'elite' Ivy graduate wannabe overlords that can't match up.
ReplyDeleteJust to back up what Soviet of Washington stated: http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-no-doctorate
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Having worked with Rose Hulman graduates they are among the best engineers I have had the pleasure to associate with.
NOTE how many of these colleges are NOT Ivy league colleges.
"The mindlessness of the academy has often been documented. One does not feel quite right trashing leftist professors who cannot, truth be told, defend themselves in the arena of ideas." Still, it MUST be done (for their own good, they need to learn this).
ReplyDelete"Whether or not students in Shanghai or Singapore can have a conversation with a plumber—a Deresiewicz criterion—they are doing just fine overall."
ReplyDeleteI don't know about the students in Shanghai or Singapore, but a woman who is CEO of a large food-processing company in the UK recently wrote that recent engineering graduates hired by her firm are very reluctant to work closely with the people on the plant floor, and that this is imposing serious problems with their productivity and quality improvement efforts.
David Foster,
ReplyDeleteEngineers not working with the people who have to get the job done is not unusual. One of the reasons that the DoN started the Engineers at Sea program was to give them the idea of what the organizational users have to deal with in tight working conditions under combat situations.
I had acted as a mediator between engineers and those who had to put the engineer's ideas into action. Logistics and Configuration management sometimes got lost as well.
Dennis: "Engineers not working with the people who have to get the job done is not unusual."
ReplyDeleteTrue. I believe that in Germany, one still has to spend time as an apprentice before entering engineering school...this was certainly true in the past there. Gerhard Neumann, who grew up in Germany and eventually ran GE's entire jet engine business (which he played a major role in creating) went through this sequence, and wrote very positively about it in his interesting autobiography:
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/39199.html
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I recall a story from way back about a guy who wanted to be an automotive engineer was given a job as a mechanic. Complaining about this, he was told that this way he'd learn how what he did as an engineer would affect those who had to fix what went wrong.
ReplyDeleteI knew a Porsche mechanic who said that his idea of Hell was having to do a valve-adjustment on a Porsche 914-6 in the desert without a lift.
What an excellent, informative post! It's packed with good facts and observations.
ReplyDeleteA couple of points:
-- it's long been known that the generalist undergrad education at Harvard is mediocre at best. Parents who send their children through that program are buying prestige and social access they hope will help their kids become winners. The ticket into Harvard's law or business schools is a nice bonus. And like a conspicuous-consumption lifestyle, some of the glitz rubs off on the parents. Once, at a tony sailing club, a woman found a way during an unrelated conversation to tell me told me she had "very high-powered children". I gathered that helps her hold her own head a little higher, and insulates her from being looked down on. Not coincidently, the next words out of her mouth were to gratuitously criticize the outfit of a another woman walking by where we were sitting.
-- the homogeneity of the families who send their kids to elite schools would, for that customer base, be a feature not a bug. It ensures meeting the "right" people, while not having to mix with the unwashed.
Sadly one is paying for the name and the professors who teach at ivy league schools only to get a TA.
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