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To keep things in perspective, I offer this United Nations graph of the statistics about rape in Sweden. I am not using source that might possibly be tainted. The graph dates to a few years ago, but obviously the situation is not getting any better.
Sweden: Women at the top of government; rape percentage near 3 times that of the US.
ReplyDeleteWhat's wrong with this picture?
SS: "obviously the situation is not getting any better."
ReplyDeleteBut then again, they are getting precisely what they deserve. So there's comfort in that.
Trigger Warning
ReplyDeleteIt's not female politicians who are getting raped, but ordinary women and I take no comfort in that!
Mark Moncrieff
Upon Hope Blog - A Traditional Conservative Future
Mark, who do you think elected those politicians? I take great comfort in knowing that democracy works and that the women of Sweden are getting precisely what they voted for. Trust me, your valiant committment to chivalry is viewed by the vast majority of Swedish women as atavistic, patriarchal, and patronizing.
ReplyDeleteStuart, all your graph shows is that Swedes report rape at 2.5 times the US rate. It proves nothing about actual rapes (by which I mean, prosecutions that lead to conviction.)
ReplyDeleteIt does take care to compare rates between countries when definitions of rape vary, and as art.the.nerd says, rates of reporting can vary as well. And ironically there can also be coercion by authority figures including police to get a woman to press charges in the first case, even if the there was no real coersion in the sexual encounter.
ReplyDeleteAn it does make sense that a country that has more women in power is more interested in "fullest reports" of rape, while a country controlled more by men might prefer to not shame their gender in the same way that Catholic priests protected their own in child abuse cases. (And overreporting may be not categorically better than underreporting if largely innocent men are charged.)
It would seem prudent to try to separate "date rape" cases where there is unclear consent, including consensual underage sex, from "violent rape" where there is no consent at any stage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden
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There have been several international comparisons made, placing Sweden at the top end of the number of reported rapes. However, police procedures and legal definitions vary widely across countries, which makes it difficult to compare rape statistics.
For example, Sweden reformed its sex crime legislation and made the legal definition of rape much wider in 2005, which largely explains a significant increase in the number of reported rapes in the ten-year period of 2004-2013.
The Swedish police also record each instance of sexual violence in every case separately, leading to an inflated number of cases compared to other countries.
Additionally, the Swedish police have improved the handling of rape cases, in an effort to increase the number of crimes reported. Raised awareness and a shifting attitude of sexual crimes in Sweden, which has been ranked as the number one country in gender equality, may also explain the relatively high rates of reported rape.
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We can recall the confusing Julian Assange case, whether sex without a condom is rape, or sex when one person is half asleep, or whether jealousy is involved and a desire to get a man to take STD tests.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-07/julian-assange-goes-public-on-rape-allegations/8099276
Funny how someone brings up differences in reporting and handling rape cases. No one ever seems to do so when we are talking about medical statistics. Infant mortality and access are two big ones where comparisons between the US and other countries do not compare at all because of the entirely different approaches that are used and the imposition of common metrics that do not apply.
ReplyDeleteWhen one uses the argument one way and not in the other there is hypocrisy afoot.